re: 'The Fantastic Four’ Casting News: Ralph Ineson is Galactus

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Lakeith Stanfield hinted that he was in discussions to portray Silver Surfer in the upcoming 'FANTASTIC FOUR'.

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This would be a much better decision.

What am I missing? Fury was white before Jackson came on the scene.

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Exactly. They are literally freaking out over a woman being cast in a movie.

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1. No one and I mean NO ONE is "freaking out". That's a stupid characterization for people simply commenting on a movie. No one's day is ruined by this.


2. It's not that it's a woman casting on its own, you have tonlook at the casting in context of political trends, Hollywood cultural trends, and Marvel movie trends.


A few women casting for roles that have no history....no problem. Taking every male role and IP in sight and gender swapping and writing plots centered on common left wing tropes is simply the new formula and it's not interesting with pathetic pandering.

You are objectively low IQ or willingly ignorant if you haven't noticed what is taking place.

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In the comics, the black Nick Fury is that Nick Fury's son. He was first made black in the "Ultimate" universe in the comics, and designed after Samuel L Jackson. When Samuel L Jackson heard that he was the inspiration for the new version of the character, he gave Marvel the right to use his likeness and also made a deal with Marvel that Samuel L Jackson should be the first in line to play the character if the character were ever to be adapted for movies.

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This. And he has basically replaced "Nick Fury" as the cannon Nick Fury. And this happened before the MCU.

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why is a race swap ok in the comics “in its own way” but now for MCU?

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Why not respond to the reframe of the argument that it's not about male vs. female, or numbers or not wanting one of the female versions of characters - and specifically about adhering to long standing stories and mythos?

And they didn't "Race swap," in the comics, that's the point.

Specifically that people don't want is the "Norrin Radd" story as a female. That's the important point. And that's what they are going to do. It's not JUST about the name or the gender, it's about the story and the full scope of the character that they routinely ruin.

It's ok with Nick Fury because they didn't take the Nick Fury character and make him black. That's specifically what they didn't do. They used an alternate universe, a completely different character named Nick Fury - who was the son of the original Nick Fury in that Universe - gave him a good background, introduced him in long form over time, and built a whole world with him involved. It wasn't a race swap at all. And they didn't ruin the original character to do it.

It also makes sense with Captain America, Sam Wilson is Cap's longest serving friend outside of Bucky. And it made a ton of sense to make him a version of Cap. No one complained about that. They took time, took care of the original character, and made it a mantel to hold.

It would have been a problem had they dropped a black guy, or a woman, into the Cap role - as Cap with his story - right out of the gate. That's wrong in any form or situation.

Also, I still haven't seen one good reason why they should do this? Care to respond?

Is the only reason "because every superhero is male?"

So why isn't the answer to "create more female and non-white superheroes?" Why is the answer "take male superheroes and change their gender and/or race."

Why is that the answer? And why is that a good answer tpo the problem?

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It also makes sense with Captain America, Sam Wilson is Cap's longest serving friend outside of Bucky. And it made a ton of sense to make him a version of Cap. No one complained about that. They took time, took care of the original character, and made it a mantel to hold.

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Yep, no one complained. And they still don't.

Except Bama or A&M fans. But honestly, frick them. They probably prefer the Red Skull and Hydra more anyways.

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they already make too many movies. So they aren’t going to make
movies for D listers unless they become fan favorites in some
other movie before

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So, to be clear, you don't think a female or non-white character can be a A lister hero? So the only solution to make a good female or non-white character into a "A list" hero is to take a hero that is A-list and most likely male and white, (again, everyone would probably cheer for a Stanfield Surfer, he's a great actor), and take over that character's history, background, position, story, narrative? That's the only way to bring in diversity?

By your admission, there is no possibility of people rallying behind a female or non-white new hero or D-lister? So the solution to get them to be excited is to "take over" an A-lister character?

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Ehhhhhh. Sam Wilson Cap in the comics is terrible.

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I haven't read it lately, but his first few years were good. And at least the concept made sense. Sam has always been a great character for the most part.


Out of the mantle characters, Lady Thor was by far the worst. Film too.

Thanks. I didn’t know that.