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re: The female happiness paradox

Posted on 4/11/24 at 8:57 am to
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
19009 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 8:57 am to
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It’s almost like feminism sold them a bunch of lies.

Let me introduce you to some good people.

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Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106707 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:02 am to
We’ve got an absolute shining star of an example on here
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8984 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:05 am to
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Likewise, the pity/sympathy game is strong. The ones that work complain about working, the ones that don’t complain about the rigors of being a stay at home mom, the ones without kids don’t seem fulfilled, the ones with kids wish they could have a level of freedom that they can’t with children. It’s a vicious circle that grows as they grow older. A friend of mine once said “women are never happy because they don’t know what they want”. This is proven to be a very wise statement.


I’ve been married, divorced, dated a ton of women, some with kids and without. These statements pretty much nail it with regards to my life experiences dealing with women.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90891 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:06 am to
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women are either miserable but happy or happy but miserable


Women can’t make up their mind. News at 10
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35528 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:06 am to
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Most feminine gay guys I know also have crippling depression issues.




You must know a lot of gays to be able to break them into categories.
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
890 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:08 am to
Women joining the workforce had a negative impact to our country and I think it is directly related to a lot of the problems we are seeing today. For the record, I'm not being a sexist a-hole here. This is a logical observation.

The main flaw of women joining the workforce is this: Women didn't start marrying men who made less money than them. And for the system to kind of work, that is important. So what did this do? Well, it exacerbated the wealth gap between middle and lower class. And, set the precedent that a duel income household is now the standard for living comfortably. This was a terrible double whammy for the American family. I'm not saying that women need to get back in the kitchen, I'm saying that one adult needs to be able to provide for the family while the other stays home and tends to the household and children. It's too difficult to raise a family with both parents working.

This is an observation on equilibrium and every action has a reaction. The free market corrects itself, if there's the ability for people to work more and make more money, people will do it. Problem is, the good job pool didn't double while the employee pool did. There has also been a push for hiring minorities, who let's face it were not allowed to be in the job pool before either. So now we have well over twice as many people fighting over the same amount of desirable jobs.

The wealth gap is probably the largest cause of unhappiness in America today, and now the stage has been set for it exponentially widen.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59088 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:18 am to
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There has also been a push for hiring minorities, who let's face it were not allowed to be in the job pool before either.


Maybe going back 50 years.
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
3372 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:51 am to
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You must know a lot of gays to be able to break them into categories.


Welcome to Atlanta
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114059 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:57 am to
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I really think Western culture is super toxic


I think you could have stopped here.

Its called "keeping up with the Jones". And in order to do that, you need two household incomes.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69944 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:58 am to
American women seem to have trouble finding contentment, no matter what.

I think Passport bros have figured out the cheat code
Posted by jmh5724
Member since Jan 2012
2140 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:58 am to
I heard a saying a while back and it really made me think and relates to most things you see happening in society today.

“If you give a man a good paying job, he starts a family. If you give a woman a good paying job, you price her out of a family”
Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
1676 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:11 am to
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they are living in the greatest place and era of opportunity and wealth in the history of the world.


Do people really still believe this? 20 or 30 years ago, maybe there was some justification for this sentiment but I don't think 2024 America is the "greatest" in any major way. The golden age of computer networking maybe?

Other than that, we live in a time when most people live with cradle to grave uncertainty about what to think and do. Most people born now will not get to reproduce, which was not true 50 years ago but was true throughout the age of barbarism that constitutes most of human history. The losers (90% of us now) take solace, as you note, in quasi-masturbatory activities, many of which involve computers.

There is "wealth" available to us, in a sense. A lot of people fixate on the availability of air conditioning and motor transport. These are conveniences. They do not fundamentally do anything to correct the aimless, godless, disconnected, asocial nature of life in the developed world in 2024 (which is really shitty, IMO).
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61377 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:21 am to
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“If you give a man a good paying job, he starts a family. If you give a woman a good paying job, you price her out of a family”


I'm sure there are studies that confirm this. Even a well-paid woman seeks out a man to "provide" for her. Feminism teaches entitlement, not responsibility which is why women have become entitled with power yet refuse to accept the responsibilities of their new roles.


The Jaffe memo is real IMO.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11201 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:41 am to
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There is no real paradox, just a linear correlation. The more that women get exactly what they want, the less happy they are.


True but I think it ties in with feminism in our society. Telling them what they should and shouldn’t want . So they’re very confused about what will make them happy and are often looking outward for something to make them happy(career, looks, husband, kids,etc) and that never works so they get frustrated at these things that aren’t bringing them the happiness they expect it to.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61377 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:47 am to
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True but I think it ties in with feminism in our society. Telling them what they should and shouldn’t want . So they’re very confused about what will make them happy and are often looking outward for something to make them happy(career, looks, husband, kids,etc) and that never works so they get frustrated at these things that aren’t bringing them the happiness they expect it to.


There's disconnect between popular culture values and what women historically, across thousands of years of human societies, have always wanted and got which includes their biological realities.


Why now have we decided women should ignore all biological realities? Why in this time period?

Of course it confuses women because women are great at reinforcing societal norms. They can't square the current societal norms with reality and it drives them mad.




Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
2957 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:20 am to
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She literally has no idea about their wills, how much one they have in savings, where they bank, 401(k) account details…. anything and everything related to finance she’s completely excluded from

Sounds like my wife but her obstinence is a choice. Hasn’t seen a bill in 15 years. I’ve tried to get her involved. Thankfully she keeps her spending within reason. She loves to cook so her biggest splurge is getting whatever she wants at the grocery. She hyper focuses on our kids and just knows she can get what they need, put gas in her car and shop for what we need.
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 11:22 am
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78979 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:26 am to
Women are receiving the absolute worst advice on how to achieve happiness. The entire culture is set up to give women advice that is contrary to her nature. It would be as counter productive as telling men to be soft and femininized. Oh wait....

The Trad Wife movement has this exactly correct. To be happy a woman needs emotional security. She needs this even more than financial security. This is where men come in. A happy hetero woman will be naturally submissive.

This is the great secret that a "Trad wife" understands. If she submits in a peaceful and feminine manner to a man, it will activate a man's desire to offer the emotional security she craves. In her peaceful submission, she creates intensity and attraction, and the man shifts from his own needs and desires to ensuring that her emotional needs are met as an expression of his masculinity. This makes the man feel ALIVE, the protector, the provider, the man he wants to be. And it all starts with a gift she offers, which is her loving submission. The ironic beauty of the entire thing being that they both get exactly what they need and what makes them happy. Through her feminine vulnerability, she captures his heart and prompts him to be the assertive and masculine man of integrity she desires. They are now an unbreakable team, and not adversaries under the same roof.

So, to recap; women who want happiness will submit, prompting men to focus on providing the emotional security to said woman, and everyone ends up stronger and happier.

Although this concept endlessly annoys modern women in America, I'd love to hear if any women agree.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6538 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:48 am to
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Of course it confuses women because women are great at reinforcing societal norms. They can't square the current societal norms with reality and it drives them mad


social media is giving people insane expectations on societal norms/reality
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1019 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:59 am to
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So, to recap; women who want happiness will submit, prompting men to focus on providing the emotional security to said woman, and everyone ends up stronger and happier.



You explained this so well. As I've said on here before, progressive feminism has wrecked the modern family. The "we don't need men" mentality has created a world where marriage is disposable if it's not "fun" anymore, and children are just accessories. This idea emasculates men and strips them of their greatest roles, which are to protect and provide for the family.

Women are raised with the notion that any job whatsoever is better than staying at home with their babies. What's ironic is that SOME woman is raising their kids, just by way of day care and after care in school.

I don't exactly blame them, because our society pushes this so hard. We don't know what to think sometimes! When I was working full time, I was riddled with GUILT that I wasn't being a good enough mom. When I went back into full-time mom mode, I felt guilty that I wasn't supplementing our income or would be looked down upon by working women.

I have both a B.A. and M.A. from LSU, and I'm very employable if I ever need to go back to work. But for right now, the greatest honor in my life is serving my husband and children. And I can assure anyone who asks, every minute of his day is to serve and protect us.

First-wave feminism has turned into plain man-hating, which is very sad. The term "misogyny" needs to die, yesterday. Men are not women.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22487 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 12:08 pm to
Travelling for work gets a really bad rap in relationships. Give 'em time to miss you.
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