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Did the Dems love Russia and hate Reagan during his presidency?

Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:28 am
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:28 am
I would bet this group of Dems would.
Posted by beulahland
Little D'arbonne
Member since Jan 2013
3596 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:32 am to
Well, hell yeah!
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46573 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:33 am to
A lot of Dims loved them some Soviet Union back in the 70's/80's
Posted by Captain Poopie Pants
Pag Island
Member since Jun 2020
467 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:36 am to
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Yes, the Dems have been communist trash for quite awhile. Go watch Trevor Loundan on Epoch tv. He has a special on who gets Dems elected in the House and Senate.

The Russians, Chinese and Cubans donate to pacts and the pacts help the Democrat candidates.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5762 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:40 am to
Yes because the Russians were commies then.
Posted by Granola
Member since Jan 2024
552 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:42 am to
the Dems loved Russia back then and despised Reagan. What a party
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:42 am to
The Dems and especially the press hated Reagan.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96717 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:43 am to
Yes.

Teddy Kennedy attempted to cut a deal with the Soviets to not cooperate with Reagan in hopes of beating him in 1984.

I think the main reason it didn’t happen is that the Soviets had multiple heads in a short period between Brezenov and Gorbachev, meaning little continuity of leadership.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:50 am to
quote:

Did the Dems love Russia and hate Reagan during his presidency?

No and yes. Democrats did not love Russia but definitely hated Reagan.

Russia (the USSR) was an authoritarian mess. Democrats were all in on Radio Free Europe and anything else that undermined the Soviet state. What they didn't agree with openly was Reagan's very aggressive policies toward Russia. The Democrats considered Reagan to be reckless, increasing the possibility of nuclear war.

Now we know that Reagan's aggressive approach to the USSR was the correct approach. The USSR spent so much on its own defense that its infrastructure crumbled, and the leadership could no longer sustain the empire.

But to your point, no, no one except the usual loonies on the fringe loved Russia.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 10:52 am
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
20408 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:21 am to
The Dimocrats strongly opposed Reagan's anti-missile system saying it would lead to nuclear war with the Soviets. They derisively called it "Star Wars" and tried to block funding for research on this project.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:38 am to
Just before Reagan the word was 'detente.' Most Dems realized that communism wasn't a good standard of living but they admired the attempt and thought it could be perfected.
The Rector (sp) Study was amazing. It was a huge mailed in survey of almost every journalist in the U.S. It included TV, radio, newspapers. It was just opinions on a large list of topics.
One was: 'What political figure in the world do you admire most?' The top answer with 60% was Fidel Castro. Reagan was about 10%.
This cannot be duplicated today because journalists were embarrassed and know better than to tell the truth.
Posted by BluegrassCardinal
Kentucky
Member since Nov 2022
106 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:40 am to
Early in his presidency, Reagan was fairly hard line against the Soviets. Things really peaked with Pershing missile deployments in Europe and the downing of the KAL flight.

Soviet leadership was, for the most part, paranoid about a sneak attack from the west. So much that they nearly overreacted during NATO's Able Archer exercise. The early 80s's were second to the the Cuban missile crisis in terms of going to the brink. Although, it's been wrote that the Yom Kippur War got pretty toasty.

The media pretty much loathed Reagan. There was a lot of pushback in the media with the decision to deploy intermediate range missiles in Europe and SDI (which was really a PSYOP to spook Moscow. Later in the 1980's it was constant bashing of Reagan during the Iran-Contra scandal.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48290 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:46 am to
The left loves any big government, tyrannical regime whether it’s nazis, communist or radical Islamic terrorist. They admire and aspire to duplicate any oppressive power they can implement to achieving their ends.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
6180 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:12 pm to
Reagan was constantly described by the leftist brain trust as a "B-list Actor", despite the fact that he was previously the Governor of California.

They especially hated him for turning the South Republican. That was the point when the so-called Reagan Democrats became "the deplorables", although they wouldn't be called that for another 30 years.

His shallacking of Mondale was one of the greatest arse-whippings in politics that I can recall.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 12:14 pm
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13288 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:18 pm to
Sen. Kennedy talked to the Kremlin during an official CODEL about what would their reaction be if the 25th amendment would used against Reagan.

Very much like why Rex was fired by Trump on the plane during a return trip from Russia after he met with Putin (Trump found out he broached the 25th amendment question w/Putin upon request by Crossfire Hurricane read-ins)

This is not new. And the R's letting them do it without even "condemning it publicly" is not new either.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99528 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:26 pm to
Yes.

They would still hate Russia now because current Russia is not a willing participant in their WEF/WHO/climate change bullshite.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14296 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:29 pm to
That was back when Dems loved communists and hated war mongering Republicans.

My have times changed.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
16069 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:32 pm to
They spent the 80s raising hell about Reagan's economic policies. His welfare queen speech made them lose their minds.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:34 pm to
Many prominent Dems vacationed in the USSR some even honeymooned there.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14599 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

Did the Dems love Russia and hate Reagan during his presidency?


No. They hated the Soviet Union as much as anyone but they were afraid of both.
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