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re: If JaMarcus wouldn't have held out, would his NFL career be different?
Posted on 7/28/20 at 4:53 pm to Giantkiller
Posted on 7/28/20 at 4:53 pm to Giantkiller
No, laziness and the purple drank were always to be his legacy.
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Posted on 7/28/20 at 5:09 pm to Giantkiller
He did the right thing. His career was damned by him being picked by the raiders.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 5:29 pm to baobabtiger
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He did the right thing. His career was damned by him being picked by the raiders.
How long do you think he would have played for the Patriots?
He wouldn't have made it through the first training camp.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 5:29 pm to Giantkiller
No he got paid and mailed it in had zero heart
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:12 pm to Giantkiller
No.
Did you ever hear this about him?
They gave him blank game tape I guess. That Monday JRoc came to camp and they asked him how the weekend went, he said no prob coach I learned it all.
The tape was blank.
jamarcus-russell-blank-tape
Did you ever hear this about him?
They gave him blank game tape I guess. That Monday JRoc came to camp and they asked him how the weekend went, he said no prob coach I learned it all.
The tape was blank.
jamarcus-russell-blank-tape
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:37 pm to Giantkiller
Doubt it.
The Raiders were a terrible organization at the time and he had significant work ethic issues.
He maybe been marginally better without the holdout but not much.
The Raiders were a terrible organization at the time and he had significant work ethic issues.
He maybe been marginally better without the holdout but not much.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:49 pm to Giantkiller
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If JaMarcus wouldn't have held out, would his NFL career be different?
Posted on 7/28/20 at 8:28 pm to Giantkiller
He was an embarrassment to himself and his legacy.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:44 am to Big Sway
Perfect shite Storm. He was lazy, wouldn't put in the work as others have already stated. Also, the Raiders didn't do him any favors. They called basically nothing but Hail Marys every play. The OL was shite and he got destroyed. Can't remember who did the piece, but they broke down how crappy the offensive playcalling was while he was with the Raiders. It was a complete shite show.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 1:22 am to Giantkiller
Not at all... He was what he was. No need to discuss an alternate outcome. Now if the question was, if he went to a team with better front office personnel and vets that could have made a difference, thats a different scenario, but I still say he would of flamed-out even playing for Bellicheck and the Pats...
He got the money and lived life... It is what it is. Im sure he has as much regret for not putting in the effort as much as we say he wasted his talent and opportunities.
He got the money and lived life... It is what it is. Im sure he has as much regret for not putting in the effort as much as we say he wasted his talent and opportunities.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 6:13 am to BayouCowboy
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If he was dedicated to stay off the purple drink.
Purple “Drank”
Posted on 7/29/20 at 8:25 am to ATLTiger
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) It's crazy that the Raiders let it get to that point. The team holding the 1st pick can negotiate with players they're looking to select. So they should've at least known the parameters of what Jamarcus and his agents were looking for, if not had the contract done prior to the draft (the Texans had Mario Williams signed before the draft began the year before).
I don't even think Jamarcus's demands were out of line with what top overall picks - and especially QBs - were getting at the time. Matt Ryan got more money overall and guaranteed on his deal the next year, and he was the 3rd pick.
Of course, this is Al Davis and the Raiders, so...
His hold out was entirely due to Al Davis deciding he was going to be the one to break the rapidly increasing rookie pay scale.
JR's rookie deal was 13% or so more than Mario Williams' the previous year, with a large 21% increase in guaranteed money.
As you said, Matt Ryan - taken 3rd overall the next year - got a deal worth 14% (only 2% guaranteed though) more than Russell's.
The next #1 overall QB was Stafford. His deal was 18% larger than Russell's with a 28% increase in guaranteed money.
And then the guy who actually broke the rookie pay scale, Sam Bradford's rookie deal was 9% higher than Stafford's, with an 18% increase in guaranteed money (21/56% larger than Russell's, respectively).
In 2011, Cam Newton (only) received a $22mil fully guaranteed contract.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 8:58 am to Giantkiller
I doubt it. He had a lot of other things that happened regardless.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 9:16 am to Giantkiller
No.
Getting millions before doing squat did him in at a young age.
Such money so young is a tough thing sometimes.
Getting millions before doing squat did him in at a young age.
Such money so young is a tough thing sometimes.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 9:53 am to Giantkiller
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I don't think he'd have lived up to the hype but he might have had some different luck.
He has admitted that he wasn't committed. His work ethic screwed him so I don't think anything would have changed.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 10:08 am to ATLTiger
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I don't even think Jamarcus's demands were out of line with what top overall picks - and especially QBs - were getting at the time. Matt Ryan got more money overall and guaranteed on his deal the next year, and he was the 3rd pick.
Of course, this is Al Davis and the Raiders, so....
yeah i mean he picked JR when his golden boy head coach 100% was against it. Al didn't give a frick
i think the issue is that the Raiders are cash poor. same reason why they had to trade Mack a couple years ago
Posted on 7/29/20 at 10:11 am to Giantkiller
JaMarcus Russell has been thrown under the bus by most LSU fans. If he had been drafted by any other team, he would have had a stellar career. He was clearly a top prospect. His career difficulties were 95% not his fault.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 10:13 am to chinhoyang
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JaMarcus Russell has been thrown under the bus by most LSU fans. If he had been drafted by any other team, he would have had a stellar career. He was clearly a top prospect. His career difficulties were 95% not his fault.
While I agree that he gets far too much shite at this point, it’s pretty silly to say 95 percent was not his fault
Posted on 7/29/20 at 10:15 am to Wayne Campbell
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In 2011, Cam Newton (only) received a $22mil fully guaranteed contract.
Well that’s because he that was the first year of the rookie wage scale
Posted on 7/29/20 at 10:25 am to wildtigercat93
quote:80% might be a better number.
While I agree that he gets far too much shite at this point, it’s pretty silly to say 95 percent was not his fault
I know he did not have good work production, but would you if you were playing for the Raiders? There was no reason for his to bust arse playing for that team.
It was a bad matchup.
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