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re: As gold as it still is, could Starship Toopers be remade and improved?
Posted on 4/29/24 at 5:24 pm to mattchewbocca
Posted on 4/29/24 at 5:24 pm to mattchewbocca
You could make it a lot worse by making it truer to the source material.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 5:58 pm to skrayper
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You could make it a lot worse by making it truer to the source material
You, sir, can go straight to hell. That book is a classic that I've read and enjoyed multiple times. Robert Heinlein is a sci fi legend. He, Asimov, and Clarke are the Big 3 godfathers of American science fiction. Respect your betters, citizen!
Posted on 4/29/24 at 7:30 pm to Handsome Pete
The sergeant (i guess that was his rank), would be a butch female, the hero would be a female, the males would be soy boys. No, don't remake it.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 7:44 am to mattchewbocca
Huge bugs launching interstellar shitbombs that take out Buenos Aires.....you can't get more campy
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:15 pm to dcw7g
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But it wasn't a satire of fascism
I don't know what to tell you, guy...
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Others, and Verhoeven himself, have stated that the film was intended to be ironic, and to critique fascism. The film has also been described as criticizing the jingoism of US foreign policy, the military industrial complex, and the society in the film, which elevates violence over sensitivity.
I mean he wouldn't be the first director to intend to get some point across and fail badly. The problem is that he kind of stuck too close to the book on this point. This no autocracy. There is no dictator. There is no cult of personality. Voting is literally of such high importance and virtue that you must be willing to serve, and perhaps even risk dying, to attain the right to do so. There is free speech to such an extant, that in the novel it's actually part of an officer's training to legitimately question the validity of their type of government, and in the film, such topics are brought up in public schools. There is no conscription. All military service is open and voluntary.
There are no racial, ethnic, classist, or religious policies that ban any member of society from participating in society - with the lone exception of voting which very litterally anybody (with the exception of particularly violent criminals in the novel) has the right to try and do to whatever ability they are capable of.
This was all either explicitly portrayed under Verhoeven's direction, or directly implied. If you think that any of that relates to fascism, then to quote you, I don't know what to tell you, guy.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:11 pm to ouflak
About the only thing I noticed as "fascist" was the obvious copying of Nazi uniforms.
And the co-ed showers possibly. But even the fascists hadn't gotten there.
And the co-ed showers possibly. But even the fascists hadn't gotten there.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 3:09 pm to mattchewbocca
Feels ripe for animation
Posted on 4/30/24 at 3:22 pm to mattchewbocca
Yes, simply because what Verhoeven made was a satire of sci fi militarism rather than an adaptation of the actual book.
It won’t be the same thing but it can be a better movie on its own rights.
It won’t be the same thing but it can be a better movie on its own rights.
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