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re: Finally watched First Blood and Rambo:FB2 for the first time - solid
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:29 pm to teke184
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:29 pm to teke184
quote:agree but 2, 3, and 5 all suck. when he first saves the mercenaries in 4, that's arguably the best scene of all the Rambo movies. First blood is definitely the best of all.
I thought 3 sucked but the fourth movie, Rambo, was very good.
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:51 pm to Ace Midnight
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First Blood was an outstanding film and the original ending (Rambo dies) would have made it even better.
First Blood original ending LINK
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:52 pm to CocomoLSU
Interesting tidbit. A female only had one line in First Blood. It was at the beginning when the Sheriff was going into his office in the morning. A towns lady walking by said Good Morning as he was getting out of his car. Something we will never see again.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:09 pm to Dirk Dawgler
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Interesting tidbit. A female only had one line in First Blood. It was at the beginning when the Sheriff was going into his office in the morning. A towns lady walking by said Good Morning as he was getting out of his car. Something we will never see again
That can't be right. Very beginning of the movie when Rambo meets Delmar Berry's mother and she informs him how he died of cancer due to being exposed to Agent Orange in Vietnam.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:16 pm to CocomoLSU
Best Rambo movie:
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:17 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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That can't be right. Very beginning of the movie when Rambo meets Delmar Berry's mother and she informs him how he died of cancer due to being exposed to Agent Orange in Vietnam.
Yup.
Also the lady in the police office has a line or two I think. And it’s not just good morning IIRC.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:29 pm to CocomoLSU
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Finally watched First Blood and Rambo:FB2 for the first time - solid
Now you know why I always rank these two movies as some of the best all time.
At the beginning:
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Co: Why did they pick you? Because you like to fight?
Rambo: I'm expendable.
Co: What mean expendable?
Rambo: It's like someone invites you to a party and you don't show up. It doesn't really matter.
Just before she dies:
quote:
Co:"You...no expendable"
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:32 pm to CocomoLSU
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Also the lady in the police office has a line or two I think. And it’s not just good morning IIRC.
The principle stands, these are great movies because women know their place
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:45 pm to Ace Midnight
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First Blood was an outstanding film and the original ending (Rambo dies suicide) would have made it even better.
Totally agree because that fits the narrative that was set up all film.
All his former comrades in arms are dead, Rambo has PTSD, he's spit on, the boring small town America treats him like dirt.
That ending would've been the stronger indictment of what some in America did to Vietnam Vets.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:54 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Yeah agreed that even though that alternate ending was brutal and dark, it would have been better.
But then there would’ve only been one Rambo instead of five.
But then there would’ve only been one Rambo instead of five.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:06 pm to CocomoLSU
Sylvester Stallone’s shining moment in his entire career is his monologue to Trautman in the police station. His best acted scene by far
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Trautman : You did everything to make this private war happen. You've done enough damage. This mission is over, Rambo. Do you understand me? This mission is over! Look at them out there! Look at them! If you won't end this now, they will kill you. Is that what you want? It's over Johnny. It's over!
Rambo : Nothing is over! Nothing! You just don't turn it off! It wasn't my war! You asked me, I didn't ask you! And I did what I had to do to win! But somebody wouldn't let us win! And I come back to the world and I see all those maggots at the airport, protesting me, spitting. Calling me baby killer and all kinds of vile crap! Who are they to protest me, huh? Who are they? Unless they've been me and been there and know what the hell they're yelling about!
Trautman : It was a bad time for everyone, Rambo. It's all in the past now.
Rambo : For *you*! For me civilian life is nothing! In the field we had a code of honor, you watch my back, I watch yours. Back here there's nothing!
Trautman : You're the last of an elite group, don't end it like this.
Rambo : Back there I could fly a gunship, I could drive a tank, I was in charge of million dollar equipment, back here I can't even hold a job *parking cars*!
Rambo : We were in this bar in Saigon and this kid comes up, this kid carrying a shoe-shine box. And he says "Shine, please, shine!" I said no. He kept askin', yeah, and Joey said "Yeah." And I went to get a couple of beers, and the box was wired, and he opened up the box, fricking blew his body all over the place. And he's laying there, he's fricking screaming. There's pieces of him all over me, just... like this, and I'm tryin' to pull him off, you know, my friend that's all over me! I've got blood and everything and I'm tryin' to hold him together! I'm puttin'... the guy's frickin' insides keep coming out! And nobody would help! Nobody would help! He's saying, sayin' "I wanna go home! I wanna go home!" He keeps calling my name! "I wanna go home, Johnny! I wanna drive my Chevy!" I said "With what? I can't find your frickin' legs! I can't find your legs!"
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:20 pm to Vols&Shaft83
That’s right. She is the at the very beginning. Aside from her and the town lady saying good morning I don’t recall another.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:45 pm to Dirk Dawgler
Trautman: Company leader to identify Baker Team - Rambo, Messner, Ortega, Coletta, Jurgensen, Barry, Krakauer confirm! This is Colonel Trautman.
Rambo: They're all gone Sir.
Rambo: They're all gone Sir.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:58 pm to CocomoLSU
First Blood is my favorite Stallone movie. Rambo 2 is extremely entertaining as is 4.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:11 pm to Frac the world
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Sylvester Stallone’s shining moment in his entire career is his monologue to Trautman in the police station. His best acted scene by far
And see, I thought his acting in First Blood wasn’t very good at all. It wasn’t awful, but it certainly wasn’t good by any means. At least for me.
But I did like the subject matter FB dealt with. Even if some of it was in a cheesy 80s kind of way.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:25 pm to Corso
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I've always thought the made for TV movie In Broad Daylight about the killing of Ken Rex McElroy and his performance in that role was very underrated. I don't think anybody could've done it better
I've read that he scared people on the set of that movie as he was so much like the real guy.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 11:27 pm to BuckyCheese
That statue look like a native american
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:16 am to CocomoLSU
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I'll say this: neither one of them are particularly good or particularly bad, and overall I liked them well enough. I do feel like I was expecting them to be better though (or the first one anyway...the second one was more what I was expecting). The first one has very little plot outside of "Rambo pisses off a local cop the runs into the jungle to do Rambo shite."
The first one is a very good movie. The second is a very good action movie.
The first one certainly does have more of a plot than Rambo “pissing off a local sheriff” that if you going I’m expecting to simply see an action movie you miss. I think a few others have hit on this point by posting quotes from Rambo’s monologue at the end of the film. Also, as others have mentioned, in the book Rambo is a less sympathetic character that does directly kill others and eventually dies in the end.
The second one….and really all the subsequent ones…have plots that really only exist to get Rambo firing his M60 and brandishing his knife. They are more in line with the Missing in Action franchise, Delta Force, Commando and other pure action movies where the hero kills a lot of bad guys.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 7:15 am to Vols&Shaft83
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That can't be right. Very beginning of the movie when Rambo meets Delmar Berry's mother and she informs him how he died of cancer due to being exposed to Agent Orange in Vietnam.
Not to mention the waitress in the bar.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:26 am to Jack Ruby
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Not sure which film came out first, but 1985 was the peak pissing match between Stallone and Arnold.
There's a reason Commando and Rambo II are basically the same film.... One man against an entire army... And the star kills everyone.
Don't forget about Chuck Norris with Missing in Action and Delta Force movies around the same period.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 10:28 am
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