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re: BI has 1 3PA in the first 2 games combined

Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:30 pm to
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6580 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:30 pm to
Were not getting a no. 2 for BI. So just keep improving the roster. Go get one of the Cleveland bigs.

whatever you do don't resign him. His contract will be one of thr worst in thr nba. He's turning into Jordan poole
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:33 pm to
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Were not getting a no. 2 for BI
Correct

And the idea that we shouldn't trade him if it's no for a #2 is wild considering the 2 alternatives or extension or let him walk.

But there's no legit #2 that is realistically coming to New Orleans next season. Sure we should try, but it's not happening.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25513 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:34 pm to
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Were not getting a no. 2 for BI.


Are you aware that we can trade BI and other assets to get someone better back?
Is that not a possibility in your mind?
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
8750 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:35 pm to
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Are you aware that we can trade BI and other assets to get someone better back? Is that not a possibility in your mind?


How many firsts or young players are you attaching to BI get a legit number 2 back?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:35 pm to
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Is that not a possibility in your mind?
A #2... That wants to come here? That essentially IS a prerequisite... No, not terribly possible.

Who?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25513 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:37 pm to
Wants to come here?

We are trading for them. Not signing a free agent. There isn’t a choice.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:37 pm to
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Who?
And dudes that aren't as good as CJ obviously don't count... Looks at your Herro post.

That dude isn't as good as CJ, let's be serious here.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25513 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:38 pm to
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How many firsts or young players are you attaching to BI get a legit number 2 back?


Obviously depends on the guy we are getting.
I’m not trading Trey or Herb.
Everyone else is a possibility.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:39 pm to
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Wants to come here?

We are trading for them. Not signing a free agent. There isn’t a choice.
That's not how it works, you know that. What you're saying is how you think it should work, not how it actually works, hence, me adding "realistically" to all of my posts.

Funny, we traded AD to the one place he wanted to go, weird how that worked out.

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25513 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:40 pm to
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And dudes that aren't as good as CJ obviously don't count... Looks at your Herro post. That dude isn't as good as CJ, let's be serious here.


Herro has had plenty of great playoff games in his very young career and he can play just as shitty D as CJ.

No I don’t expect anyone to think he’s better than CJ. But he sure as shite was tonight.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6580 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:41 pm to
I think herro is about the same as CJ and he's younger. He's a dumb arse though
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:42 pm to
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Herro has had plenty of great playoff games
So has CJ
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and he can play just as shitty D as CJ.

No I don’t expect anyone to think he’s better than CJ. But he sure as shite was tonight.
Who cared about just tonight?

So you mentioned him when I asked for legit #2s but now concede he's not a #2, so why did you mention him?

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25513 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:42 pm to
It most certainly is how it works.
It’s a trade. Not a free agent signing. Winning cures all.

Was there someone willing to give up as much as the Lakers did for AD?
Don’t act like that wasn’t a ton of assets we got back.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:43 pm to
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I think herro is about the same as CJ and he's younger. He's a dumb arse though
Definitely in that same tier

CJ changing his shot profile and his shooting efficiency this season puts him above Herro for sure.

But either way, neither are a legit #2 option, just like BI.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25513 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:43 pm to
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So you mentioned him when I asked for legit #2s but now concede he's not a #2, so why did you mention him?


I was being ridiculous on purpose.
And I’m still irritated we got our arse kicked while short handed Miami kicked the Celtics arse.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:45 pm to
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Was there someone willing to give up as much as the Lakers did for AD?
No because stars control the market, they always have.
quote:

It most certainly is how it works.
And yet it never works like you say it does. The star always signs off.

So how does it "most certainly" work that way when it never actually works that way in practice?
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 11:46 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:47 pm to
Hell, not just AD but our own team has yet another example.

Jrue


Not even a legit #2, and we still made sure he was traded to a contending team he'd sign off on. No chance in hell we would have sent him to a shite team even if we thought it would get a slightly better return... None, zero chance.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 11:48 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25513 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 12:02 am to
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Hell, not just AD but our own team has yet another example. Jrue Not even a legit #2, and we still made sure he was traded to a contending team he'd sign off on. No chance in hell we would have sent him to a shite team even if we thought it would get a slightly better return... None, zero chance.


That was not the same scenario and you know that. Some guys have that respect where a front office will try their best to appease them.

Why did Paul George go to OKC?
Gobert to Minny?
Mitchell to Cavs?
Kawhi to Raptors?
Why is Jrue in Boston?
Why was Porzingis in Washington, or Dallas?
Why is Kyrie in Dallas?

You go where you get traded. Simple as that.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32445 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 7:44 am to
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No because stars control the market, they always have.

Maybe I’m a bit too optimistic, but I feel like the number of players who can control where they go is 10 or fewer guys, and when LeBron finally retires there will be less of the bs (I don’t think AD gets his way if it wasn’t for LeBron/Klutch forcing it).

I don’t think a typical number 2 player gets to control which market he goes to, look at Siakam for instance. Or even Dejounte, I don’t think he’s gonna be able to pick his market if he’s getting traded.

ETA: I don’t think KAT will get to choose where he goes if he gets shipped off either
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 7:47 am
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40080 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 7:48 am to


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