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BI has 1 3PA in the first 2 games combined

Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:52 pm
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
3123 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:52 pm
That is a mind blowing stat. Your starting small forward and one of your best shooters just straight up refusing to shoot 3s.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25512 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:54 pm to
The supposed best 3 point shooter in the league this year is 3-14 through two games.

Posted by unctiger4
Member since Mar 2015
2114 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:54 pm to
He routinely passes up a semi-open catch and shoot 3 for a contested pull-up 2. It’s maddening.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11798 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:55 pm to
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The supposed best 3 point shooter in the league this year is 3-14 through two games.


And?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:58 pm to
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The supposed best 3 point shooter in the league this year is 3-14 through two games.
The guy with the best % in the league has a lower 3pt% than CJ the last 2 games.

Does that mean he can't be the best 3pt shooter either now?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25512 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:00 pm to
Just reminding you all that CJ is playing shittier than BI, on both ends of the court.
B/c he isn’t a legit #2.

But let’s just ignore how crappy he is and just shite on BI.

And I still want to trade BI.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:01 pm to
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B/c he isn’t a legit #2.
Neither is BI, so I still don't see the relevance of repeating that.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25512 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:04 pm to
B/c you think he is. And I keep telling you isn’t.

We can’t trade our supposed #2 for a fricking non shooting big.
We can’t win without a #2. BI goes out, a better #2 has to come back.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
8750 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:04 pm to
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Just reminding you all that CJ is playing shittier than BI, on both ends of the court. B/c he isn’t a legit #2. But let’s just ignore how crappy he is and just shite on BI. And I still want to trade BI.


Honestly they both sucked dude.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:06 pm to
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B/c you think he is
I think who is what? Not sure what you're talking about.
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And I keep telling you isn’t.
You seem confused

I've made it abundantly clear that your argument that we'd lose a #2 in BI is irrelevant because of 2 reasons:

1. BI isn't a #2

2. CJ can be a #2 just like BI can, poorly
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We can’t trade our supposed #2 for a fricking non shooting big.
We can if he's not a #2, just like CJ isn't a #2.
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We can’t win without a #2. BI goes out, a better #2 has to come back.
BI isn't a #2, so we don't lose a #2 by trading him.
Posted by unctiger4
Member since Mar 2015
2114 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:07 pm to
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We can’t trade our supposed #2 for a fricking non shooting big. We can’t win without a #2. BI goes out, a better #2 has to come back.


No, you bring back someone who is less skilled in a vacuum but fits better with Zion/Trey/Herb.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
3123 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:09 pm to
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We can’t trade our supposed #2 for a fricking non shooting big. We can’t win without a #2. BI goes out, a better #2 has to come back.


BI isn’t a #2 and neither is CJ
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25512 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:09 pm to
BI was a good bit better offensively than CJ today, and he still wasn’t good.
CJ has been bad these two games, and his defense is so bad. I’ll run the numbers tomorrow morning but I have a feeling they’ll be uglier than game 1.

It also points out why we can’t trade BI for a PG that can’t play D b/c CJ is bad enough. You can’t pair him with another bad small defender.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
8750 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:11 pm to
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BI was a good bit better offensively than CJ today, and he still wasn’t good.


Because Willie was specifically forcing plays to get BI going. We were down by 13 at half when BI started getting going we went down 20 which makes you wonder how effective he really was offensively.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25512 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:12 pm to
Cool. So your solution is to simply not have a #2?
That’ll work out real well.

Arguing that BI isn’t a #2 is irrelevant.
Thinking we shouldn’t be looking for a #2 in a trade is unbelievably stupid.
We have assets coming out of our arse still. Be aggressive and go get a guy that makes us a contender.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:16 pm to
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Cool. So your solution is to simply not have a #2?
That’ll work out real well.
I'll repeat what I said in the other thread. There is no realistic path to adding a legit #2 on a championship level team. That does not mean we should keep BI because, again, he is not a #2.
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Arguing that BI isn’t a #2 is irrelevant.
It's the crux of the entire thing that shows your point about CJ to not be relevant, not sure how you don't see that.
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Thinking we shouldn’t be looking for a #2 in a trade is unbelievably stupid.
Never said we shouldn't look for one, not sure what you're talking about.

Seems the difference is you think BI can bring back one of those #2 on a title team guys that would have a legit shot of us landing him. I think that's not realistic, at all.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6580 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:16 pm to
What #2 is available?

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:18 pm to
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What #2 is available?
And that we can realistically trade for...

For example, Donovan Mitchell... Not realistic, we're not giving it all up for a 1 year rental, nor should we.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 11:19 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25512 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:28 pm to
Tyler fricking Herro looks likes more of a playoff #2 than BI or CJ ever has. And he’s done it multiple times.

Lauri is the guy we should be going after.

DeMar DeRozan would be an upgrade over BI.

They’ll be guys available in the offseason you didnt think would be. We have assets to get anyone.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:29 pm to
Tyler Herro is not a #2

I'm all for Lauri, I'd bet that's not realistic. Why would Ainge move him for Brandon Ingram?
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DeMar DeRozan would be an upgrade over BI.
Upgrade, yes. Not a #2.
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