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re: New Orleans Saints Draft Thread - 7 new Saints, 1 trade, time to sign UDFAs
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:57 pm to WicKed WayZ
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:57 pm to WicKed WayZ
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.imagine if they had traded away future capital for Fuaga. Now THAT, my friend, would have caused me to melt and this entire site to crash
Oh I would have melted for that
or if Bowers slipped to us and we still went OG
But Bowers went 1 pick early so there were no more unicorn guys left, so the differences were less.
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
Guy who has one of the safest floors in the draft is meh. Got it 
At worst, he’s a slightly above average starter for years. At best, he’s an All Pro/Pro Bowl level talent. He might not have the potential of Latu, someone who could be one of the best DEs in the league, and be a game changer but having a sure fire starter isn’t meh to me
At worst, he’s a slightly above average starter for years. At best, he’s an All Pro/Pro Bowl level talent. He might not have the potential of Latu, someone who could be one of the best DEs in the league, and be a game changer but having a sure fire starter isn’t meh to me
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:57 pm to rt3
Love the pick. He will be a bookend. One of the league guys called him a nimble bully, I love it!
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:57 pm to DBG
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SFP, drafting Latu and then having him for 8 games in season 1,
Yes, 10% of his contract, compared to 50%
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
1. You’re assuming no other injury would pop up
2. Marcus Davenport and Payton Turner
2. Marcus Davenport and Payton Turner
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Not comparable to a cost-controlled 1st round contract. For example, if Latu missed half a year, that would only be 10% of that contract length, not 50%
And you’re ok drafting this guy over Fuaga knowing there could be issues with him missing games, if not have issues his whole career?
Again Fuaga short arms concern you more than Latu’s neck issues. That makes absolutely no sense.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:59 pm to DBG
You guys think Bowers would have been the pick if he was there?
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:00 pm to DBG
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1. You’re assuming no other injury would pop up
I'm comparing like to like.
Young could have a career-ending injury, too.
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2. Marcus Davenport and Payton Turner
Raw athletes who are hurt due to that physical profile.
Literally nothing like Latu at all
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Literally nothing like Latu at all
True, neither medically retired at one point in college
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:02 pm to Pels_Yaz
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And you’re ok drafting this guy over Fuaga knowing there could be issues with him missing games, if not have issues his whole career?
Yes b/c he's much more likely to become an elite player at a more valuable position (I think Fuaga could be elite at OG)
Would you prefer a Bosa brother or Mike Iupati (the most common comparison to Fuaga I found)?
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Again Fuaga short arms concern you more than Latu’s neck issues. That makes absolutely no sense.
His short arms likely make him a G, which hurts his value immensely as a prospect (and need-based player, as well).
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:02 pm to jamal
Underhill indicated earlier in the day he was doubtful they would take him. So I doubt it. They probably would have taken Latu or Turner if the 4 OTs were gone
Only way they take Bowers is if Latu/Turner and the 4 OTs went. I would have bolted to the podium for him but the Saints hate TEs
Only way they take Bowers is if Latu/Turner and the 4 OTs went. I would have bolted to the podium for him but the Saints hate TEs
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:03 pm to DBG
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True, neither medically retired at one point in college
Exactly. Latu has a high ceiling but he is an absolute gamble. The guy could completely be out of the league if somehow the neck injury issues reappear or he aggravates something via injury.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Would you prefer a Bosa brother or Mike Iupati
Nick for sure. But I’d 100% take Iupati over Joey’s injured arse. Iupati was an All Pro and 4X Pro Bowler, not same no name slack arse that barely played for the 49ers lol
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Yes b/c he's much more likely to become an elite player at a more valuable position (I think Fuaga could be elite at OG)
Hes also much more likely to be out of the league due to his neck injuries. Something you completely ignore when doing the comparison.
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Would you prefer a Bosa brother or Mike Iupati (the most common comparison to Fuaga I found)?
I prefer Iupati(Fuaga could be a much better player but for the sake of your argument) over some guy who’s out of the league due to neck issues like Shazier.
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His short arms likely make him a G, which hurts his value immensely as a prospect (and need-based player, as well).
These are just assumptions made by you before a guy even plays. Its like you’re ruling him out at OT before he even steps on the practice field. You can’t make arguments based on your biased assumptions.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:08 pm to Pels_Yaz
Senior Bowl executive director Jim Nagy said the Saints got themselves a "Day One starter" in Taliese Fuaga. "Slam dunk," Nagy said. He added that he thinks he will be a perennial Pro Bowler.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:08 pm to WicKed WayZ
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imagine if they had traded away future capital for Fuaga.
I half way expected them to hit full on panic mode once Latham was selected. I thought that 2nd rounder was toast.
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:10 pm to LSUZombie
Was coming to post the same thing. Like I said earlier, if he’s Carl Nicks reincarnated or is a Pro Bowl RT, does it really matter?
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:11 pm to DiamondDog
Panic smoke. Was never going to happen.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:11 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Hes also much more likely to be out of the league due to his neck injuries.
You don't win championships by drafting safe, high-ceiling guys. You need elite talent. That's not a guarantee it always works.
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I prefer Iupati(Fuaga could be a much better player but for the sake of your argument) over some guy who’s out of the league due to neck issues like Shazier.
No shite. That wasn't the question.
FYI, the Bosa brothers are intentionally chosen due to their extensive injuries, and Iupati is the perceived apex of Fuaga (Giving him all the benefit of the doubt)
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These are just assumptions made by you before a guy even plays. Its like you’re ruling him out at OT before he even steps on the practice field
Again, it's not impossible, but highly unlikely. I play the odds. I have already said he may be the outlier.
*That's supposed to be "high-floor" not high ceiling
This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 7:19 am
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:12 pm to LSUZombie
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Senior Bowl executive director Jim Nagy said the Saints got themselves a "Day One starter" in Taliese Fuaga. "Slam dunk," Nagy said. He added that he thinks he will be a perennial Pro Bowler.
Damn right. He is one of the few I listen to.
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