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re: 12 Year Old Girl with BPD
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:38 am to Leotiger725
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:38 am to Leotiger725
I worked for a boarding school which specialized in mental health treatment for children under 18. The students went to class to keep up with their studies and attended several group and individual therapy sessions per week under the guide of psychologists and psychiatrists.
I didn’t have anything to do with the therapy side but it appeared to help some of the kids.
You may want to see if there is a similar school in Texas.
I didn’t have anything to do with the therapy side but it appeared to help some of the kids.
You may want to see if there is a similar school in Texas.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:49 am to Leotiger725
Man, while I have no advice to offer I can tell you something to be aware of.
My next door neighbor has a daughter who is bipolar. She is now in her early 50s, but this was about 15-18 years ago. I don't know if she stopped taking her meds or she switched meds or what, but she had a breakdown.
She was taken to a state mental hospital in Baton Rouge and my neighbor and his wife were called to be informed she was there. They went see her every day and after the third or fourth day they noticed she was getting worse. From what he told me, she was unhinged. The doctors told them she was making progress but when they would meet with her there was nothing about her that showed making progress. I don't know how this part all happened, but they were able to have a doctor who didn't work there look at her charts from the hospital. The doctor advised them to go get her out ASAP.
A lot of the meds they were giving her were meds that once you start taking you have to ween yourself off of. Instead, they would give her something and if there was no sign of improvement, they would switch her to something else and within a full 7 day week, they switched her meds 4 different times.
The doctor then gave her lose dosage of the last meds they gave her, she had to ween off of that medicine then prescribed something else that didn't seem to be working so she had to be weened off of that medicine then finally they found what works the best for her.
They had problems with her when she was a teenager. She was diagnosed with BPD and she was taking meds and was able to function. She went to college, had a pretty good job and then I guess the meds she had been on just stopped working and that's when she had the breakdown. So I hope you can find a balance of the right meds for her and hopefully she doesn't stop taking them at some point.
My next door neighbor has a daughter who is bipolar. She is now in her early 50s, but this was about 15-18 years ago. I don't know if she stopped taking her meds or she switched meds or what, but she had a breakdown.
She was taken to a state mental hospital in Baton Rouge and my neighbor and his wife were called to be informed she was there. They went see her every day and after the third or fourth day they noticed she was getting worse. From what he told me, she was unhinged. The doctors told them she was making progress but when they would meet with her there was nothing about her that showed making progress. I don't know how this part all happened, but they were able to have a doctor who didn't work there look at her charts from the hospital. The doctor advised them to go get her out ASAP.
A lot of the meds they were giving her were meds that once you start taking you have to ween yourself off of. Instead, they would give her something and if there was no sign of improvement, they would switch her to something else and within a full 7 day week, they switched her meds 4 different times.
The doctor then gave her lose dosage of the last meds they gave her, she had to ween off of that medicine then prescribed something else that didn't seem to be working so she had to be weened off of that medicine then finally they found what works the best for her.
They had problems with her when she was a teenager. She was diagnosed with BPD and she was taking meds and was able to function. She went to college, had a pretty good job and then I guess the meds she had been on just stopped working and that's when she had the breakdown. So I hope you can find a balance of the right meds for her and hopefully she doesn't stop taking them at some point.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:51 am to Leotiger725
My older sibling had BPD among other mental health issues. Medication, helped keep her relatively stable about 50% of the time. The other 50% was extremely difficult. The raging, the suicide attempts, self mutilation. disappearing for days or weeks going on drug benders, impulsive spending sprees that bankrupted her, terrible toxic relationships, many stays in mental health facilities. She never harmed another person physically though. The one aspect of her life that was surprisingly stable was work and school. She was an excellent student and worker at her jobs which she maintained most of her adult life. She unfortunately passed away a few years ago at age 50 due to drug intoxication. We still dont know if it was accidental or suicide she had been threatening suicide a few weeks earlier.
My parents did everything they could to try to help her. It was essentially a full time job for my mother until she passed away. Be careful not to lose your own mind in this process. I'm happy to answer any questions you may have if it helps.
My parents did everything they could to try to help her. It was essentially a full time job for my mother until she passed away. Be careful not to lose your own mind in this process. I'm happy to answer any questions you may have if it helps.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 9:59 am
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:02 am to Leotiger725
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I meant Borderline Personality Disorder for the record
It may be worth updating the OP b/c a lot of folks misread it and are still missing it. Two very different things.
Sorry, you are dealing with that. I have a close family member who used to deal with young girls with BPD. That isn't an easy job and I don't envy anyone in that situation.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:07 am to Leotiger725
I’m sure this has been covered over 13 pages but step one should be to remove all smart devices and access to social media
Start there
Start there
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:28 am to Cdawg
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You have to develop patience like no other. When they have an episode, I've found to keep silent and let them vent and have their moment. be the bigger person and understand no sane person would act out this way. It's not easy especially when you see them hurting others. Pick your moments but never in the middle of them acting out.
The hardest part about Borderline is getting the person to admit they have a problem. The one I know has tried 5 different ones over the course of many years. It never works because they cannot except fault, wrongdoings, misconduct, etc. It's difficult. At the end of the day, it's you that has to change and accept how it is. Once you do that, you will find a little peace.
this is where i'm at with my BPD person. for many years, before i understood the condition (undiagnosed, but i'm pretty sure), i would defend myself against whatever craziness she was throwing at me, and we would go down this multi-day spiral of crazy fighting and i would never even know what the frick we were fighting about otehr than she was just super unhappy with me for some reason. i would take deep offense at some of the stuff she said to me, because , honestly, it was pretty harsh. now that i understand BPD a lot better, when these episodes get going, i jsut ignore it and go find somethign else to do. initially this triggers her into an even worse state of agitation, but eventually it will pass, and it has done wonders for my OWN mental well being. her BPD is very internal - the quiet variety - so i dont really have any concerns about violence or wild acting out. it's jsut a simmering state of discontent with occasionally periods of intensity.
i've just accepted that that's how life is now
BPD is fricking wild man.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:49 am to Northshore Aggie
I’ll add that you really have to watch out for the gaslighting with them too. And it’s like a different kind of gaslighting than we get from the media, politicians, etc where they are consciously trying to sort of trick us into remembering something different than what we remember. With BPD gaslighting, they really believe what the frick they are saying. If they tell you that ten years ago you did such and such for such and such reason and that you are a total son of a bitch for this thing you did back then for all of these reasons, etc etc – they really fricking believe in their minds that that is what actually happened. Constantly churning up vague old memories of something YOU DID TO THEM and assigning nefarious motives and motivations to explain their current state of emotional distress is BPD bread and butter. You might not even remember the thing they bring up – maybe it happened, maybe not, most likely some VERSION of it happened – but to them it is absolute, 100% objective reality.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 10:58 am to jeffsdad
I believe part of the problem is spiritual. I have seen and experienced spiritual darkness first hand many times after I was saved at age 27. There have been lots of strange occurrences in our home recently. I bought a childrens bible for her and she destroyed it. I asked her to repeat a prayer after me and she physically wouldn’t/couldn’t do it.
Something is going on beyond the mental aspect.
Something is going on beyond the mental aspect.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 11:17 am to Leotiger725
Get an exorcism done - call local archdioceses (but watch out for pedophiles)
Posted on 4/30/24 at 12:15 pm to Leotiger725
One more thing I'd like to add to the OP -
Don't forget to take care of YOU. This is going to take a toll on you as well.
Don't forget to take care of YOU. This is going to take a toll on you as well.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 12:37 pm to Leotiger725
If it never improves, best case you won’t have to provide for her anymore if she goes viral and becomes rich and famous at least. Zoomers love that kind of content. Keshmeoussah girl is doing pretty well for herself I hear
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:04 pm to Leotiger725
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here have been lots of strange occurrences in our home recently. I bought a childrens bible for her and she destroyed it. I asked her to repeat a prayer after me and she physically wouldn’t/couldn’t do it.
Something is going on beyond the mental aspect.
Such as? Just be very careful going down this path of thinking. I wont dismiss it out right because I believe there is more to our reality than what we can comprehend with our five senses.
That being said there are charlatans and just plain idiots that have no idea how to deal with mental illness that can make the situation much much worse by suggesting spiritual "solutions" . Also if your child is aware of these thoughts she will absolutely use it as another means of manipulation. You have her in a treatment center now. Thats the best you can do at the moment.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 4/30/24 at 3:06 pm to Leotiger725
She needs extended professional assistance to get stabilized. Once stabilized, behavioral therapy, ongoing counseling and consistent prescription regimen will hopefully get you through high school. Prayers absolutely help; perhaps unseen in the patient but for the family and friends they are an important aspect of care.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 3:12 pm to GEAUXT
quote:All women have at least a little BPD.
Doesn't Paige have BPD?
Grey rocking is the only solution. They thrive on the arguments and escalation. Deprive them of that and there is little incentive for them.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 3:15 pm to LazloHollyfeld
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(but watch out for pedophiles)
Not even close to funny. GFY
Posted on 4/30/24 at 3:33 pm to Scruffy
quote:Füt will take this opportunity to thank you for what you do everyday (or night or combo of the two) in that portion of the healthcare vineyard.
I wish you luck. I only see it from the ER side of things. I wish I had a better idea of how to help long term.
He knows that you get paid for it but he’s truly appreciative of folks like you who are in medicine for the right reasons and give of themselves to effect the relief of the suffering of others.
Thanks Doc!
Posted on 4/30/24 at 3:43 pm to lsunutinno
Hmmm, sounds like a large portion of a certain demographic.
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Antisocial personality disorder (ASPD or APD) is a personality disorder characterized by a limited capacity for empathy and a long-term pattern of disregard or violation of the rights of others.[3][4] Other notable symptoms include impulsivity and reckless behavior (including substance abuse), a lack of remorse after hurting others, deceitfulness, irresponsibility, and aggressive behavior.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 4:29 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Grey rocking is the only solution. They thrive on the arguments and escalation. Deprive them of that and there is little incentive for them.
Facts
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