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re: Headache + one tiny pupil & one huge one. Docs seem stumped! What gives??

Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:04 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:04 pm to
Prayers sent.

I wouldn't get alarmed until a neurologist gets alarmed - I think an MRI of the brain is going to be in your near future.

But, it could be something simple like inflammation near the optic nerve (or ocular migraine as others have suggested).

Anxiety isn't going to do anything to help, so I would relax until you know.
This post was edited on 2/13/15 at 8:07 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146712 posts
Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:07 pm to
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After the doctors consulted with the internet


Yet, if we consult with the internet they get butthurt

If I were you, I would search for the best ophthalmologist in your area and get in ASAP.

I will never understand how we are suppose to have the best health care in the world and yet, if you go to an ER an ophthalmologist could not have seen you. In every other profession you would think one of each speciality should be on duty.

Does the percocet alleve the headache? Take 800 mg of motrin.

quote:

so they did a brain scan and it came back ok


The worst is over.
This post was edited on 2/13/15 at 8:12 pm
Posted by Chillini
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:07 pm to
Thoughts out to you. Don't worry until you have a reason to.
Posted by porkrind
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Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

Horner's syndrome?


After reading about this I think we have a winner. If only it wasn't caused by so many different things lol
Posted by stniaSxuaeG
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:11 pm to
Sounds like a cluster headache to me. Tell the doc to put you on oxygen...it should help.

ETA: LINK
This post was edited on 2/13/15 at 8:13 pm
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:11 pm to
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something simple like inflammation near the optic nerve (or ocular migraine as others have suggested).


I wouldn't characterize swelling around my ocular nerve as something "simple"
Posted by porkrind
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Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

Yet, if we consult with the internet they get butthurt

If I were you, I would search for the best ophthalmologist in your area and get in ASAP.

I will never understand how we are suppose to have the best health care in the world and yet, if you go to an ER an ophthalmologist could not have seen you. In every other profession you would think one of each speciality should be on duty.

Does the percocet alleve the headache? Take 800 mg of motrin.


I know right. I can't believe they were just like...... well follow up with your primary and get a referral. You know how long that is gonna take!

Nothing has made it go away. The pain meds help a bit. Currently giving beer a shot. At the very least it will make me care less.
Posted by stniaSxuaeG
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:15 pm to
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porkrind
Any eye watering? Feel like your eye is popping out of your head? Headache only on one side? Runny nose?

How intense was the onset and how quickly did it come on? Also, how old are you?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:17 pm to
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I wouldn't characterize swelling around my ocular nerve as something "simple"


I didn't mean to sound cavalier, but I didn't want to be an alarmist - I mean that's a better more straightforward thing to deal with than aincancerbray, right, Badger?
Posted by porkrind
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Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:17 pm to
Yes to everything in your first line.

I'm 34 and the onset was pretty sudden. First symptom was blurry vision followed by headache hours later.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146712 posts
Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:17 pm to
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see an ophthalmologist

and this...



don't worry my eye doc and surgeon said they have seen many non malignant tumors behind the eye. but it is not a malignant tumor
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:19 pm to
did you say you got hit by a rock? if the headache is not relieved go to another ER.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

aincancerbray


Totes
Posted by porkrind
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:24 pm to
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did you say you got hit by a rock?


Yes but that was about a month ago. It was so long ago and the scan showed nothing so I'm not very concerned with that. I've been getting whacked with rocks on the regular for the past 15 years.
Posted by LSUtiger17
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:29 pm to
Anisocoria. I have it too and went as far down the line of specialists as a neuro-ophthalmologist. My eyes reacted appropriately and equally to light and every test they ran came back normal, so she diagnosed me with physiological anisocoria- meaning that it's benign and not indicative of stroke, brain tumor, or aneurism like I'm sure you've read it can be linked with. Get an appointment with an ophthalmologist and go from there, but I wouldn't worry too much about it if the scan came back ok
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146712 posts
Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:32 pm to
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What are cluster headaches?

Cluster headache is pain that occurs along one side of the head. It's frequently described as pain that occurs around, behind, or above the eye and along the temple in cyclic patterns or clusters. The pain of a cluster headache is very severe. Many patients describe a “drilling” type of sensation. For classification as a true cluster headache, associated autonomic features such as tearing/watering of the eye, redness of the conjunctiva, rhinorrhea or nasal stuffiness, eyelid drooping, sweating on one side of the face, or changes in pupil size (with the pupil on the affected side becoming notably smaller) are usually present. The headache lasts from 15 minutes to a maximum duration of about 3 hours. However, the headache can recur up to eight times daily. Cluster headache was originally described in the 17th century, but it wasn't until the mid- 20th century that it became known by this name.

Who gets cluster headaches?

Males are two to four times more likely to develop cluster headache than females; however, the overall frequency is quite low, with a prevalence rate of about 1 per 1,000. Because of the rarity of the condition, limited information is available.

Although the vast majority of patients are adults, cluster headache has been reported in children as young as 6 years of age.

What are the symptoms and signs of cluster headaches?

Cluster headache is always unilateral, or one-sided. However, some patients may experience some variability of the side on which their headache occurs. Most patients describe their pain as occurring around or behind the eye. Pain is also described as radiating along the forehead, into the jaw or along the gum line and into the teeth, or across the cheek of the affected side. Infrequently, pain may extend into the ear, neck, or shoulder. Although watering (tearing) of the eye is frequently identified, some patients may only experience some redness of the conjunctiva. Eyelid drooping or swelling and a runny nose (rhinorrhea) are often associated with the pain of a cluster headache. Symptoms more commonly identified with migraine headaches, including sensitivity to light, sounds, or odors may occur. However, unlike migraine headache, movement does not worsen the pain of a cluster headache. In fact, many patients describe a sense of restlessness during their pain.

The headaches associated with cluster occur in groups. While the headaches themselves may be brief (as short as 15 minutes), the headaches can recur up to eight times in 24 hours. Headaches may last as long as 3 hours. Cluster cycles may last for only a single day, or may linger for many weeks.


LINK

If I were you-

percocet PLUS 800 mg ibuprofen, 2 benadryl
Posted by stniaSxuaeG
Member since Apr 2014
1578 posts
Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

Yes to everything in your first line.

I'm 34 and the onset was pretty sudden. First symptom was blurry vision followed by headache hours later.
That sounds like a classic cluster headache. The CT was warranted based on the sudden onset and severity to rule out something like a bleed or a mass. The treatment is typically 100% oxygen by face mask, which is really effective for that type of headache. You probably don't have access to an oxygen mask, so the next best thing is imitrex (or another triptan), which you need a prescription for.

I would still recommend you get the MRI done to rule out anything more sinister, especially if it doesn't resolve over the next day or so.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146712 posts
Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:38 pm to
quote:

Anisocoria. I have it too and went as far down the line of specialists as a neuro-ophthalmologist. My eyes reacted appropriately and equally to light and every test they ran came back normal, so she diagnosed me with physiological anisocoria- meaning that it's benign and not indicative of stroke, brain tumor, or aneurism like I'm sure you've read it can be linked with. Get an appointment with an ophthalmologist and go from there, but I wouldn't worry too much about it if the scan came back ok


^^^ excellent advice. go on health grades and research the BEST ophthalmologist. DO NOT go to optometrist as the boneheads that looked on the internet said.

If after taking the motrin with perc and headache does not go away GO RIGHT NOW to another county/parish ER. They can give you an IV cocktail to get out of the migraine. I have no clue why they didn't give you this or a narc shot to begin with.
Posted by saderade
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Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:40 pm to
Don't cluster headaches come in waves? Usually lasting about 30 minutes at a time?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146712 posts
Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

That sounds like a classic cluster headache. The CT was warranted based on the sudden onset and severity to rule out something like a bleed or a mass. The treatment is typically 100% oxygen by face mask, which is really effective for that type of headache. You probably don't have access to an oxygen mask, so the next best thing is imitrex (or another triptan), which you need a prescription for.

I would still recommend you get the MRI done to rule out anything more sinister, especially if it doesn't resolve over the next day or so.


^^^ this. but she already cleared the MRI.
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