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re: History in Pictures is a great twitter feed. Here is one just posted.

Posted on 7/18/14 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 2:09 pm to
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I guess that could be said if one really didn't pay attention to cockpit location.


Heat of the moment type of thing. There were 20,000 Fw-190s built but only 300 or so IAR 80/81.

You're fighting for your life against a mixed bag of Bf-109s, Me-110s, and a slender bodied, radial engined fighters. Odds are strong you're going to think they're 190s.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 2:18 pm to
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Heat of the moment type of thing. There were 20,000 Fw-190s built but only 300 or so IAR 80/81.

You're fighting for your life against a mixed bag of Bf-109s, Me-110s, and a slender bodied, radial engined fighters. Odds are strong you're going to think they're 190s.


Good point, sir. Where are you located? If you ever get out Savannah way, stop by the 8th AF museum. You won't regret it!
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 2:19 pm to
Those FW-190s were beasts, especially the Doras... They were a good match for our P-51s.
Posted by Kcrad
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 2:20 pm to
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Me-110s


That plane never lived up to expectations.

Rudolph Hess flew the most successful mission in an Me-110.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 2:31 pm to
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That plane never lived up to expectations.


Exactly. You know its bad when a fighter escort has to have a fighter escort...
Posted by Kcrad
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 2:39 pm to
Thank God Hitler and Goering were idiots.

Did you know Germany didn't go on a 24/7 war production schedule until 1943.

If Albert Speer would have been in charge of war production from the start, Germany might have won the war.

Speer was one of the few people who had Hitler's ear.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 2:50 pm to
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Did you know Germany didn't go on a 24/7 war production schedule until 1943.


Did not know that. There were a lot of mistakes that they fortunately made...
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 3:35 pm to
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Those FW-190s were beasts, especially the Doras... They were a good match for our P-51s.


Yes they were, but I still liked the A and F series better. As has been noted, I like radials.

I'm just north of Montgomery, AL. Savannah is a pretty good haul. I do get down to Pensacola and the Naval Avation Museum every couple of years.

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That plane never lived up to expectations.

Rudolph Hess flew the most successful mission in an Me-110.


When it was designed, there was a vast difference in opinion as to what made a good fighter. Lots of countries were delving into the heavy fighter concept (see the Airacuda and Fokker G1 upthread for examples). The mistake was thinking that that type of aircraft could dogfight with single engine, single seat aircraft.

It wasn't that the 110 was bad, it was just initially used in an inappropriate role. Later in the war, it's good range, relatively high speed, and strong firepower made it a potent ground attack aircraft on the eastern front and very effective night interceptor on the western front and served until the end of the war.
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 4:36 pm to
No quiz with this post. Just a few interesting aviation photos involving some previously discussed aircraft.

First is the P-40. Everybody knows it was used in combat by every allied air force. What almost nobody knows is that it was also used operationally by Japan and used to equip part of a Sentai (air group).



You can read more about it and see a few photos here. Not surprisingly, there were issues with friendly fire incidents.

Along the same lines, immediately after the war France attempted to regain control of its former possessions in SE Asia. Their solution to filling an immediate air power need was to turn to captured Japanese aircraft.

They used the Ki-43 Oscar, which were disliked:



The E3A1 Jake, which was pretty well liked and used for a good while:



and a single A6M2-N Rufe, which they crashed on its first flight,



In Europe, they also equipped some fighter squadrons with FW-190As but these were never used in combat.



This has been a fun thread, but it is time for me to check out for the weekend.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 4:42 pm to
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What is this plane?


Don't remember the designation, but it was built by Martin as a 'bomber destroyer' type of aircraft.


ETA. OOPS. It was a Bell design, as stated above. Had some bearing on the later P-38 concept.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 4:47 pm
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 5:01 pm to
Savannah is a haul from Montgomery, that's for sure. I love the museum at Pensacola...one of the finest aviation museums around. I have visited there quite a few times while we were stationed there.

That is some great info you posted, thanks for putting it up!
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 7:03 pm to
Sorry Ive missed all today. I'm out on the road so I'll be scarce until Sunday or Monday.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:07 pm to
Enjoy your time and be ready when you get back. You would have been stumped on the track I posted today.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:11 am to
Bump... We're almost to 100 pages here.

Let's start off easy....



Type and country of origin.

Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:39 am to
It was Germany's version of our PT boat. Used in WWII. Called the Schnellboote if I remember correctly.

Good to see you back, sir!
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:47 am to
Another ship. I posted a model (not mine) because it is one of the best images and shows color:

Name her, what is she most famous for, and what was her fate? Bonus: Name the type of camoflaudge she is wearing.

This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 10:48 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:51 am to
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It was Germany's version of our PT boat. Used in WWII. Called the Schnellboote if I remember correctly.



You got it. The Germans produced these and called it Schnellboot, or S-Boot, meaning "fast boat". The allies called them E-boats.

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Good to see you back, sir!


Thanks!
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:56 am to
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:57 am to
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Another ship. I posted a model (not mine) because it is one of the best images and shows color:

Name her, what is she most famous for, and what was her fate? Bonus: Name the type of camoflaudge she is wearing.


I think that's the USS Hornet. She is most famous for launching the Doolittle Raid. She was sunk at the Battle of Santa Cruz.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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17514 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:20 am to
Correct, sir. Let me find some more to stump you....

BTW, did you know what the one posted was?
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