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re: Just Saw EV CAR on a tow truck getting charged at a charging station
Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:30 am to fightin tigers
Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:30 am to fightin tigers
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Do you carry a backup alternator or water pump? A backup fuel pump?
All of those are a lot more likely to fail than running out of gas.
It's a strange hill yall are chosing to die on. It is a problem that no one in the thread has admitted to ever happening to them, yet some are pretending this is a chronic problem.
I think it's because lots of folks are stuck in the rut of thinking that filling up with gas is just replaced with recharging, all else done the same with no change in procedure or habit.
As in, I'll just drive my EV until the battery is low then stop and fast charge. Yeah that sounds like a huge pain, a waste of time and money, and range anxiety would be through the roof. They can't get out of that way of thinking to realize that stopping somewhere to "fill up" an EV is pretty rare. Charging at home is cheap and convenient.
If you stop random vehicles on the road, I'd put strong money that EVs would average much higher miles of range remaining.
I think about it like this: what if you had a gas pump at home? Yeah it's pretty slow, pumps maybe 1 gallon per hour, but all you have to do is put the nozzle in when you park at night and by morning you have a full tank. And the gas is half the cost of buying it at a gas station. Who wouldn't want that?
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:58 am to fightin tigers
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Do you carry a backup alternator or water pump? A backup fuel pump?
I carry a jumper pack, spare fuses/relays, tire plug kit, extra oil, extra coolant, hydraulic jack, variety of wrenches and tools, spare oil filter, spare plugs, and spare fuel injectors. Failing alternators and water pumps generally give symptoms and therefore time to address before causing a breakdown. I certainly carry enough to be prepared for anything short of a catastrophic failure. How does one do that for an EV when an electronic component fails or the software glitches (certainly happens far more often than running out of power)?
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It's a strange hill yall are chosing to die on. It is a problem that no one in the thread has admitted to ever happening to them, yet some are pretending this is a chronic problem.
It's just some of us have a lot of experience with automotive problems and recognize there are a LOT of problems EV's have that are glossed over or outright ignored by their cheerleaders.
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:59 am to Clames
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an electronic component fails or the software glitches
When was the last time you bought a vehicle?
Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:03 pm to Clames
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I carry a jumper pack, spare fuses/relays, tire plug kit, extra oil, extra coolant, hydraulic jack, variety of wrenches and tools, spare oil filter, spare plugs, and spare fuel injectors.
In your car? At all times? Jesus Christ.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:05 pm to jmarto1
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When was the last time you bought a vehicle?
A few years ago, and yes I know ICE vehicles have had computers in them since the 1980's. My buddy's Tesla died in his garage while he was on vacation and had to have it flatbedded to Texas for repair. Every PCM I have had to deal with is comparatively simple and robust compared to what his Tesla requires. Good thing his backup vehicle is an old truck.
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:09 pm to Box Geauxrilla
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In your car? At all times? Jesus Christ.
Yeah, called a trunk or under the rear bench seat of my truck. Fits into a Rubbermaid tote. Maybe if you ever did some of your own planning and prep work you'd know this isn't a big deal at all. Even my fiancée keeps a comprehensive setup in the toolbox of her truck.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:15 pm to Clames
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Yeah, called a trunk or under the rear bench seat of my truck. Fits into a Rubbermaid tote. Maybe if you ever did some of your own planning and prep work you'd know this isn't a big deal at all. Even my fiancée keeps a comprehensive setup in the toolbox of her truck.
I’ve been a licensed driver for over 20 years and have never needed any of those things immediately. But I also have regular preventative maintenance done on my vehicles.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:21 pm to Clames
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How does one do that for an EV when an electronic component fails or the software glitches (certainly happens far more often than running out of power)?
You don't. You have a backup plan that includes roadside assistance.
Pretty simple concept.
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It's just some of us have a lot of experience with automotive problems and recognize there are a LOT of problems EV's have that are glossed over or outright ignored by their cheerleaders.
All cars have issues. I don't think running out of gas/fuel is an issue that is any more unique because the fuel source changes.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:22 pm to Box Geauxrilla
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I’ve been a licensed driver for over 20 years and have never needed any of those things immediately. But I also have regular preventative maintenance done on my vehicles.
You mean you haven't had to swap out a pinion gear on the side of the highway? Happens at least 3 times a year in these parts.
Dude carrying around spark plugs like he is going to start running his carb rich, foul the plugs, then change them on the side of the road.
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:29 pm to Clames
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I carry a jumper pack, spare fuses/relays, tire plug kit, extra oil, extra coolant, hydraulic jack, variety of wrenches and tools, spare oil filter, spare plugs, and spare fuel injectors.
Idk how you sleep at night knowing you’re fricked without a spare driveshaft, timing rebuild kit and oil pan.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:44 pm to billjamin
quote:You should read about all the supplies he keeps on hand and his maintenance routine for lawn equipment which he thinks is no trouble at all compared to replacing a battery pack every 5 years.
Idk how you sleep at night knowing you’re fricked without a spare driveshaft, timing rebuild kit and oil pan.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:23 pm to Clames
quote:Running out of gas or battery really isn't an "automotive problem"
It's just some of us have a lot of experience with automotive problems
Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:30 pm to Clames
I definitely do not knock having an analog sitting around
Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:33 pm to Hangover Haven
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You can't just bring a charging station to an EV...
Yet
Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:37 pm to Bow dude72
EV bad because Libturd
Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:43 pm to Korkstand
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You should read about all the supplies he keeps on hand and his maintenance routine for lawn equipment which he thinks is no trouble at all compared to replacing a battery pack every 5 years.
I remember that one. Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:47 pm to billjamin
I will say I always carry around a socket for my axle nuts and some common size wrenches.
Only because I have had to pull axle shafts on the side of the road though. Would have made lots more sense to tow the Jeep and get a ride, but I was seeing levels of pissed off that didn't have me thinking straight. Two hours of wrenching therapy probably kept me sane.
Only because I have had to pull axle shafts on the side of the road though. Would have made lots more sense to tow the Jeep and get a ride, but I was seeing levels of pissed off that didn't have me thinking straight. Two hours of wrenching therapy probably kept me sane.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:49 pm to fightin tigers
Easier to grab a 5 gallon gas can rather than a tow truck if you run out of energy tho.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:51 pm to fightin tigers
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I will say I always carry around a socket for my axle nuts and some common size wrenches.
I used to keep a spare cam and crank sensor in the glovebox when I had a 7.3. But idk why anyone needs an oil filter, fuel injector(s), etc. if those are common failure items there’s a bigger problem.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:52 pm to i am dan
quote:Easiest to never need either.
Easier to grab a 5 gallon gas can rather than a tow truck if you run out of energy tho
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 2:53 pm
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