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re: Nola Four Seasons on the ropes

Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
16989 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:44 pm to
New Orleans just isn’t a city that can take on super high end luxury hotels. Sure, there will be some people that will always be staying there but not in the amount that it needs to stay full.

There just is not enough in New Orleans to draw the amount of people to keep a high end luxury hotel full
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
2944 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:37 pm to
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Who's gonna buy a luxury condo in N.O. ?
One River Place still does well. Lots of old $ in there.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10381 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:58 am to
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Well you’d have to be a fricking idiot to be able to afford a 19 mil property and spend that money on a property in New Orleans.



I suspect that price is going to drop pretty seriously after release of the news of the financial issues surrounding the building ownership.

Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41885 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:18 pm to
Wish some grown ups would come in and take over New Orleans


shite, add all of La
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
5364 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:20 pm to
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If they cannot find restructured financing, it’s possible that they put the entire building up for sale.


Probably as much to do with increased interest rates and banks lack of appetite to refinance commercial real estate. A lot more of this on the horizon.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19509 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:25 pm to

The cost to go to the top of that building for the NOLA Vue is $35.

Pretty sure I paid less at Willis Building in Chicago.
Posted by doublecutter
Hear & Their
Member since Oct 2003
6577 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:31 pm to
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Pretty sure I paid less at Willis Building in Chicago.


I paid about $35 to go the top of Rockefeller Center in NYC.


Ain't no way I'd pay $35 to go to the top of Four Seasons to look at Algiers.
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7314 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:46 pm to
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There just is not enough in New Orleans to draw the amount of people to keep a high end luxury hotel full

The AirBNB craze has put the hurt on hotels. Why stay at a hotel like that when me and 20 of my best friends in town for a bachelor party weekend can just rent a house.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101350 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:21 pm to
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It’s a beautiful building and the bar is nice


It feels like just a rather average hotel lobby bar to me - just with prices about twice what I would normally expect to pay in an average hotel lobby bar.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115685 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:27 pm to
Yall do realize that its not the hotel that is the problem?

its the luxury condos inside. They aren't selling.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101350 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:31 pm to
It was all part of the same deal, brah. The hotel would have never been built or financed as a stand-alone. I would suspect it wouldn’t be able to continue operating in its present form as such, unless they figure out how to rectify this portion.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4266 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:35 pm to
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It feels like just a rather average hotel lobby bar to me - just with prices about twice what I would normally expect to pay in an average hotel lobby bar.


I mean it’s better than average if average is a Hilton garden inn, but I agree with the sentiment.

The lobby is cramped. People walk in expecting luxury which means the brain is expecting bright, tall and open. That lobby doesn’t really deliver.

They should have put the Ms River location on a higher floor and found away to incorporate that space into a larger, open lobby.

And don’t even get me started on the other restaurant with sweeping views that include the back of the river walk. That restaurant needed sight lines well clear of the river walk.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101350 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:39 pm to
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I mean it’s better than average if average is a Hilton garden inn, but I agree with the sentiment.


I was thinking more just typical Hilton Hilton. It really doesn’t feel anymore special or luxury than that.

Are they still using the ridiculous velvet rope deal to try to “set it apart”? It’s been awhile since I’ve been in there.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81190 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:57 pm to
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it was just too much more expensive than other nice hotels in the area. It’s not worth double the price of Windsor court


Exactly this. We tried to stay there last year, and it was significantly more expensive than Windsor Court for much less space.

I don't know what the prices are running at now, but they were around $800 back when we tried.

Was in Chicago a few weeks ago and looked at staying an extra night in the city at the Four Seasons and it was like $400 or so. I was surprised it would be so much cheaper there than New Orleans. And this was coming off of St Patrick's weekend when Chicago is packed with vacationers.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9276 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 2:34 pm to
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NOLA


Location. Location. Location.
Is a shite hole.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65597 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 2:46 pm to
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New Orleans is a dying whore filled with poor dumb fat people
I mulled this statement over for a minute or so.

My only observation is that your average, run-of-the -mill poor, dumb, and fat people the world-over should be insulted by this association.

Your should have qualified it with three "reallys".

FIFY:

"New Orleans is a dying whore filled with really poor, really dumb, and really fat people."
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20293 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 3:15 pm to
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If they cannot find restructured financing, it’s possible that they put the entire building up for sale.

Is anyone surprised?


Hmmmm....

Is there anyway we could possibly move it out of New Orleans?
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9926 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 3:22 pm to
Doesn't Drew Brees have a Penthouse there?
Seems like everything he touches for an investment, turns into a disaster.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
4728 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 3:50 pm to
I am a firm believer in the allure of “Four Seasons” from a my experience traveling internationaly for work. But I have to admit this property did not hit the usual marks last time I visited.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 3:53 pm
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8766 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:59 pm to
The Rome barker wedding?
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