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VW Chattanooga Workers Expand Mexican Economic Growth
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:39 am
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:39 am
Voted overwhelmingly for the UAW this week.
The rise of the historically ignorant victimhood class is upon us.
VW Workers fricked Around, Now They’ll Find Out
The rise of the historically ignorant victimhood class is upon us.
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Added U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.: "Let me congratulate the brave Volkswagen workers in Tennessee for winning a landslide victory to join the UAW. This historic union victory in the South shows that when workers stand up for economic justice and against corporate greed there is nothing they cannot accomplish."
VW Workers fricked Around, Now They’ll Find Out
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Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:40 am to Pax Regis
All union workers should be out on their asses. 
They cost the company way too much money and cost us consumers in overpaying for a product.
They cost the company way too much money and cost us consumers in overpaying for a product.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:45 am to idlewatcher
These idiots don’t comprehend the mobility of capital in modern society. It’s fairly painless for a manufacturer to move operations to another country over the course of a few years - especially when converting to a new product version or model.
The “find out” part for a worker usually takes a couple years so they wake up one day and just wonder why they are back flipping burgers for $15/hour with no benefits instead of flipping car parts for $35 + benefits.
The “find out” part for a worker usually takes a couple years so they wake up one day and just wonder why they are back flipping burgers for $15/hour with no benefits instead of flipping car parts for $35 + benefits.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:23 am to Pax Regis
I would love to see VW announce the plant is closing and moving to Texas or Florida.
It won't happen but that would be poetic justice. And it would send a message to all other U.S. auto plants.
It won't happen but that would be poetic justice. And it would send a message to all other U.S. auto plants.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:25 am to Pax Regis
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Bernie Sanders
Up there on the list of all-time useless human beings to inhabit the earth.
Congrats on terminating your employment fricktards.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 11:06 am to LSURussian
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I would love to see VW announce the plant is closing and moving to Texas or Florida.
It won't happen but that would be poetic justice. And it would send a message to all other U.S. auto plants.
The current NRLB would find that to be an unfair labor practice.
If it is their only plant, they could close the plant and move the work to Mexico - even if it is motivated by anti-union animus.
It is an odd rule that recognizes the right of a company to shut down (or, if it is multinational, to not do business in the U.S.). If you have two plants, you can't close on because it voted to unionize. But you could close both plants.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 11:22 am to Pax Regis
Rip Chattanooga economy
Posted on 4/20/24 at 11:30 am to kywildcatfanone
Chattanooga is a LIBERAL cesspool. Crazy that it’s in East TN but I was surprised by the amount of blue hair Antifa types rolling around there.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:36 pm to chinhoyang
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The current NRLB would find that to be an unfair labor practice
frick them.
That's why there are district courts, courts of appeal and SCOTUS.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:36 pm to chinhoyang
quote:So what? You think a company can't close a plant without the government's permission? Plants do it all the time.
The current NRLB would find that to be an unfair labor practice.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 4:46 pm to Pax Regis
What was the last autoworker strike settled on? Like netted the worker less than $100/WK gross which probably cost the worker money by barely moving them into the next higher tax bracket.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 2:55 pm to LSURussian
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So what? You think a company can't close a plant without the government's permission? Plants do it all the time.
If it is not a shutdown of all the plants in the US (assuming there is more than one VW plant), then the company would commit an unfair labor practice if it could be proven that they did so because of anti-union animus. If it is the only plant, they can do so, even if the closing is driven by anti-union animus.
You have the right to shut down your business (or your business in the US). But, you violate the NLRA if you close one plant because it voted to unionize.
Plants "close all the time.' Doing it because a plant voted in a union is not lawful.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 3:02 pm to ValhallaAwaits
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Chattanooga is a LIBERAL cesspool. Crazy that it’s in East TN but I was surprised by the amount of blue hair Antifa types rolling around there.
It’s the new Asheville. Liberals are all moving to Appalachian cities and taking over. It’s not a conservative strong hold like it once was.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 3:27 pm to chinhoyang
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If it is not a shutdown of all the plants in the US (assuming there is more than one VW plant),
Chattanooga is VW’s only plant in the US.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 3:32 pm to Pax Regis
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The rise of the historically ignorant victimhood class is upon us.
Corporations have obviously proven their benevolence and concern for the well-being of workers over time.
Just like no man who speaks German could be evil.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 3:44 pm to BigBinBR
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Chattanooga is VW’s only plant in the US.
Then VW could close it, even if they closed the plant because of the union vote. The "no partial closures" rule is designed to prevent an employer shutting down one plant because it voted for a union as it would create a chilling effect on the other plant or plants. In the last five years, the NLRB order a plant reopened because of a partial closing (one plant closed, one plant open). The order to reopen was rescinded because it was unduly burdensome (the delay of appeals helped the employer).
The link below explains how it works. I'm not sure why I'm getting downvotes - I've practiced in labor law for 30 years + and have litigated numerous ULP cases, including some involving closures.
Case on Plant Closures Discussed
Posted on 4/21/24 at 3:46 pm to chinhoyang
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If it is not a shutdown of all the plants in the US (assuming there is more than one VW plant), then the company would commit an unfair labor practice if it could be proven that they did so because of anti-union animus. If it is the only plant, they can do so, even if the closing is driven by anti-union animus.
You have the right to shut down your business (or your business in the US). But, you violate the NLRA if you close one plant because it voted to unionize.
Plants "close all the time.' Doing it because a plant voted in a union is not lawful.
Keep telling yourself this.
All those auto parts manufacturing and final assembly plants in Mexico laugh at you.
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 4/21/24 at 3:50 pm to chinhoyang
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The order to reopen was rescinded because it was unduly burdensome (the delay of appeals helped the employer).
Yeah it was rescinded because the DC court of appeal sent it back to them to take another look at it. They basically said “We looked at it again and they should still have to reopen, but we won’t force them.” They were worried about getting a SCOTUS decision that would have cut their power so they decided not to force the issue.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 3:55 pm to BuckyCheese
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Keep telling yourself this.
All those auto parts manufacturing and final assembly plants in Mexico laugh at you.
Your ignorance of labor law is showing. I've represented a ton of those auto part plants (the closing of Shreveport's GM plant cost me all of that local business). You can close your plant in the U.S. and move it to Mexico if it is the only one. You can close one plant and move it to Mexico if they cannot prove anti-union animus (e.g. a plant that is moved overseas and which has been unionized for ten years).
The parts plants are largely immune from ULP's anyway - they go wherever the plant is. If a US plant moves to Mexico, so are the parts plants. Easiest defense in the word (if the plants are union): We have to go wherever the plant is.
I hope VW closes the plant and moves the production out of the country.
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 4/21/24 at 4:00 pm to BigBinBR
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Yeah it was rescinded because the DC court of appeal sent it back to them to take another look at it. They basically said “We looked at it again and they should still have to reopen, but we won’t force them.” They were worried about getting a SCOTUS decision that would have cut their power so they decided not to force the issue.
It is a great strategy. If you close the plant and to through the time-consuming appellate process, there are few scenarios where the NLRB can justify a reopening of the plant. The employees will have found new jobs. The plant would lose a lease (as in the case) or will have deteriorated significantly.
It never ceases to amaze me how employees are surprised when they vote in a union and then the plant closes (often because it cannot compete). There was a company in East Texas that made wiring harnesses for boats. Union comes in (close vote). Company shuts down as its one customer (a boat mfg) didn't want to work with a unionized company.
Twice, I've seen a union refuse to grant concessions, knowing that the company would close (and in both cases, the company did close). They don't give a shite about employees - they would rather shite on employees than give localized concessions.
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