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re: Weather: work from home request?
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:19 am to BabyTac
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:19 am to BabyTac
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Covid was the worst thing to ever happen to the American worker.
Covid was the best thing to happen to the American 9-5er. I work in office 95% of the time but if my kids are sick or their schools close because a water main breaks I have the ability to work from home. No one has to pick up my slack and I don't have to waste a sick day.
The only reason someone should be told they can't WFH on occasion (that's the key word) is if they fail to meet deadlines. If the work is being done, who gives af where it is getting done.
I do agree that working in office the majority of the time is a much better and more productive way to conduct business but giving your employees a little leeway as long as they are still delivering should not be looked at as a bad thing.
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I purposely don’t respond until the morning of as I consider these request asinine. Since I get to work at 6:00am, I’m getting ready for my usual email response of, “Just got to the office. It didn’t seem like there were any issues on the road so you should be good. See ya soon!”
Maybe it hasn't happened yet but you will soon lose employees for behavior like this. Like it or not, Corporate America is becoming more accommodating to the 9-5er and if you don't make the same concessions then employees (Good ones) will find a place of work that will. Again I am not saying you need to allow WFH all the time but you definitely should allow it on occasion (even if you disagree with the occasion) for employee moral purposes.
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 8:20 am
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:19 am to BabyTac
Neither myself or my staff have to ask anyone when we work from home.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:21 am to Scuttle But
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Could you possibly have been promoted?
I did. And my work got much more difficult and complex. The bar was raised and I exceeded even beyond what I had done in less challenging roles…while working remote.
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Is it possible that larger bonuses and wages are due to your seniority and inflation rather than simply a percieved increase in productivity?
I should have been more clear I suppose. Our bonuses are based on a “target calculation” that is based on individual and corporate performance. The individual component of that calculation has been the highest during the remote years.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:22 am to Dadren
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Three of my best four annual reviews came during the remote years. As well as my largest bonuses. Strange.
My team is fully remote. We average better realization than we ever did before. Significantly higher than industry averages. They have capacity to take on more work, and their work is excellent quality. Our revenues per person have shot up.
I can hire the best of the best, no matter where they choose to live.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:24 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Not directed at you, but people rarely talk about how easy it is to walk all over most managers. It will probably hurt you in the long term, but it’s pretty easy to tell them what you’re going to do instead of asking for permission.
I think a lot of people in management use the excuse of “soft younger generations” (not to day that is invalid) to cover for their own weakness/conflict avoidance.
I think a lot of people in management use the excuse of “soft younger generations” (not to day that is invalid) to cover for their own weakness/conflict avoidance.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:26 am to BabyTac
Just think about all the government employees working from home. I’m sure their productivity skyrocketed.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:29 am to Dadren
If you don't see the negative then you're not in a position that forces you to see the negative. Everyone who is a hardcore WFH advocate is a direct beneficiary of WFH. I consider you a stupid person or a worthless person if you think WFH is a complete win. Selfish and stupid.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:30 am to BabyTac
Here’s a thought. Your employees are looking for any excuse to not be physically around your miserable self.
What’s your employee turnover rate look like?
Also, if your employees are so soft, why haven’t you replaced them??
What’s your employee turnover rate look like?
Also, if your employees are so soft, why haven’t you replaced them??
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:32 am to GRTiger
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Everyone who is a hardcore WFH advocate is a direct beneficiary of WFH. I consider you a stupid person or a worthless person if you think WFH is a complete win. Selfish and stupid.
For some people, WFH results in less productivity. For some, it results in more.
To figure that out, requires managers to actually manage.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:33 am to LSUFanHouston
I just want to say that I appreciate all the work from homers who are taking time out of their busy and productive schedules to tell us how busy and productive they are at 8:30 AM on a Thursday.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:33 am to BabyTac
This clown still in pretend world where he’s a big shot?
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:35 am to GRTiger
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I consider you a stupid person or a worthless person if you think WFH is a complete win. Selfish and stupid.
OK
I’ve acknowledged a couple times in this thread that WFH doesn’t work for everyone…including the post you responded to but we’re all free to create our own “narratives” I guess.
You don’t need my help with that. Gotta get back to work…from my home window office. Have a good one
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:36 am to LSUFanHouston
I guarantee 90% of the people who claim to be better at home are not. 3+ years of observation. I've let people go who were great employees and who shot straight down when they didn't have to do anything but travel 20 feet to their counter or office. Human nature demands accountability. Employee happiness has tanked too. Imagine that.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:37 am to GRTiger
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I've let people go who were great employees and who shot straight down when they didn't have to do anything but travel 20 feet to their counter or office. Human nature demands accountability. Employee happiness has tanked too. Imagine that.
"The wageslave yearns for a micromanager. Without me making small talk at the water cooler and constant office check-ins, he is but a shell of his former self"
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:39 am to Ingeniero
My people would laugh in your face at the micromanager bit. You people are dreamers. It's so obvious.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:39 am to Scuttle But
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I just want to say that I appreciate all the work from homers who are taking time out of their busy and productive schedules to tell us how busy and productive they are at 8:30 AM on a Thursday.
I can be more productive between 10-3 than you are from 8-5.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:44 am to GRTiger
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guarantee 90% of the people who claim to be better at home are not. 3+ years of observation
Of course people think they are better than they are. As a manager I sometimes laugh at self-evaluations as the employee thinks they do no wrong. On the other hand, some employees are way too hard of themselves.
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I've let people go who were great employees and who shot straight down when they didn't have to do anything but travel 20 feet to their counter or office.
Some people can’t handle it, no one would deny that.
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Human nature demands accountability.
Of course. Do you think remote employees can’t be held accountable? They most certainly can
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Employee happiness has tanked too. Imagine that.
Has more to do with lack of wage growth and reduced benefits.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:44 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Covid was the best thing to happen to the American 9-5er.
True, but for those of us who have been remote “since before it was cool”, like myself, ive been remote for 18 years- C19 was the worst thing that ever could have happened.. before the Virus, i always pretty much had the roads to myself between like 9:30am and 3pm on weekdays.. i had the ability to go to the gym, get a haircut, pick up stuff at Costco, whatever- with very minimal lines and crowds.. i could get a whole week’s worth of errands done in one afternoon… Now, the roads are ALWAYS packed, and forget about going to Costco unless you arrive right at like 10am when the doors open.. I miss those days, and they are never coming back .
Posted on 1/25/24 at 9:01 am to LSUFanHouston
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I can be more productive between 10-3 than you are from 8-5.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 9:06 am to BabyTac
If the work gets done, who gives a frick.
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