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re: Did Trump lose to Biden or was it stolen?
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:18 pm to momentoftruth87
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:18 pm to momentoftruth87
Lost
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:20 pm to Tvilletiger
Who did you vote for in that election?
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:33 pm to momentoftruth87
Then you are a imbecile.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:36 pm to momentoftruth87
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This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:37 pm to geauxbrown
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If you truly cared about election fraud and conservative values, you would spend the majority of your time working within your community to make sure it doesn’t happen again. You would be working the polls on Election Day, serve as a poll watcher or someone who secures the vote.
Maybe the fraud isn't taking place within his community, and good luck getting assigned a poll watching position, as an outsider, in the communities where the cheating was rampant.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:41 pm to goatmilker
Democrats used COVID to loosen voting ID laws and then used their superior organization and ground game to get out the vote. Some of the get out the vote probably wasn’t on the up and up
That isn’t cheating that was smart strategy. Trump got out smarted, out maneuvered, and out played. And if they cheated so what? If you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying. They cheated fair and square. Trump isn’t sitting in that chair so he got beat.
That isn’t cheating that was smart strategy. Trump got out smarted, out maneuvered, and out played. And if they cheated so what? If you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying. They cheated fair and square. Trump isn’t sitting in that chair so he got beat.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:42 pm to Purple Spoon
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I’m not a denier but I have yet to hear anyone explain how Joe Biden received 81 million votes. 11 million MORE votes than Obama who had a flawless presidential campaign.
I'm not going to try and tell anyone that there wasn't cheating. Because there was, is and will be. Voter rolls not being kept up-to-date and mass mailing of ballots to every registered voter enables widespread cheating. You also have a new generation of voters that are extraordinarily liberal and they're just beginning to flex their voting muscle.
This board is a bubble. A lot of posters here simply don't realize just how deeply hated Trump is across much of the country. During his term he did a couple things to his benefit and detriment: He developed a supremely loyal base. He also has burned bridges almost everywhere else.
You have voters like me that have and will vote for the bastard (he is one but with the nomination he's my bastard at the end of the day) but want him out there for the debates to be challenged and earn his spot. He isn't the incumbent this time around. Go fight for it, even if it appears to be an inevitability with his base not willing to budge. I don't agree with that approach but so be it.
His future prospects rely upon Biden screwing up so badly that people vote for him because they have no other choice. If the country isn't cratering around election time those people won't come back to him. It's personal to them and rewarding Trump isn't something they will want to do. Biden has to lose them first before Trump is considered. It's still far too early to determine if that will happen.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:47 pm to momentoftruth87
Combination of. Trump made himself so GD Unlikeable that a ton of people made it a point to not vote for Biden but vote against Trump!
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:51 pm to ArcticTiger
The two posts ^^^ above this one are pushing a narrative. Trump won.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 3:05 pm to Purple Spoon
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I’m not a denier but I have yet to hear anyone explain how Joe Biden received 81 million votes. 11 million MORE votes than Obama who had a flawless presidential campaign.
I did a long thread, showing all the work, in the election thread comparing Biden's numbers to Hillary's numbers.
I compared over 200 counties, the criteria was:
1. they were each in a deep red state
2. each county was deep red (at least 60% Trump, most higher)
3. the county did not use Dominion machines
I picked them at random (as random as looking at the map clicking a county can be) verified they met the criteria and added them to the list if they did.
Biden's national popular vote results were listed as 23.4% higher than Hillary's. When I added all the counties up and compared them to each other Biden was credited with a little over 21% (I forgot the exact number but it was within 2 percentage points) more than Hillary's published popular vote number. These are numbers from places one would think had almost no reason to cheat for Biden.
While this proves nothing 100% the fact Biden was credited with nearly the same popular vote increase in those 200+ deep red countiess as seen in the national numbers indicated to me the 81 million number was probably reasonably accurate and not the place to look, it is however far more memeable.
The election turned on around 40k votes. I am convinced the 81 million argument is a red herring. If the election was stolen it was stolen in very small pockets not on a national level.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 3:07 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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I find it interesting that when Hillary cried foul about the ‘16 election, DC mobilized to investigate every inch of Trump’s campaign for 3 years
And what did they find from the 16 election in regards to election fraud? Did anyone go to jail?
Posted on 10/22/23 at 3:08 pm to momentoftruth87
Nah not stolen. Trump is one of the worst presidential candidates in USA history. He got lucky and went up against someone almost as despised as he is. Thanks to Trump we got Biden, good job Trumpers.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 3:10 pm to momentoftruth87
Statistically speaking, it was most likely stolen.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 3:19 pm to momentoftruth87
Out of curiosity. How old are you?
Posted on 10/22/23 at 3:21 pm to momentoftruth87
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momentoftruth87
Move on f@g
Posted on 10/22/23 at 3:38 pm to geauxbrown
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And what did they find from the 16 election in regards to election fraud? Did anyone go to jail?
You can pull up the last couple of hours of wolf blitzers despair as seen on MSM '16 election night, and you would probably not find it odd, as Wolfe reports on the only two counties east of the Mississippi still "counting votes" as the polls were closing on the West coast were in Wayne and Broward Counties.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 3:39 pm to momentoftruth87
Not a fan of Trump, voted for him, and the election was stolen.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 3:42 pm to geauxbrown
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If you truly cared about election fraud and conservative values, you would spend the majority of your time working within your community to make sure it doesn’t happen again. You would be working the polls on Election Day, serve as a poll watcher or someone who secures the vote.
I did work the polls. Checked ID's against the roles. Nothing occured in my parish like 5 other counties in 5 other states.
Now what?
Posted on 10/22/23 at 3:54 pm to momentoftruth87
It was definitely stolen, but it was done so in a way that can never be proved unless you focused on it like a laser. And dumbass Trump was too full of Dominion this and Dominion that. That was never the steal.
In EVERY important, close election the Democrats do inner city vote harvesting. The two things you need to do that are almost 100% of that area is for your party and it’s too unsafe for the other side to do proper checking and auditing. The Democrats have that in every major city, and the Republicans have it nowhere, because they have the misfortune of having no violent constituents.
In 2020 this was driven into overdrive by the covid voter ID relaxations, which were specifically to cheat. If Trump had been on the ball from the get-go he would have focused his investigation, like D’Souza did, on the mules. Then he should have contacted a bunch of them, paid to flip them, then arrest others. That second wave of arrests could be by the book, and resulted in public confessions. Instead he wasted his time with Dominion and mypillow guy.
In EVERY important, close election the Democrats do inner city vote harvesting. The two things you need to do that are almost 100% of that area is for your party and it’s too unsafe for the other side to do proper checking and auditing. The Democrats have that in every major city, and the Republicans have it nowhere, because they have the misfortune of having no violent constituents.
In 2020 this was driven into overdrive by the covid voter ID relaxations, which were specifically to cheat. If Trump had been on the ball from the get-go he would have focused his investigation, like D’Souza did, on the mules. Then he should have contacted a bunch of them, paid to flip them, then arrest others. That second wave of arrests could be by the book, and resulted in public confessions. Instead he wasted his time with Dominion and mypillow guy.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 3:56 pm
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