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re: Easy fix to the background check issue

Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14244 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:12 pm to
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bear arms for self defense
I don't deal much with emojis. What does that mean in this case?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73514 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:14 pm to
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I don't deal much with emojis. What does that mean in this case?
Much like your idiotic statement concerning the Odessa shooting, you apparently think the right to bear arms is relegated to self defense only.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49101 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:18 pm to
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I would be floored if requiring an ID would have a disproportionate effect on blacks. I have never heard an actual black person complain about this. I have heard white liberals say that this is so, but I have never seen any basis for it.




Elitist white progressives do think that that little of minorities but the underlying reason is that they know illegal immigrants can't vote with voter ID laws
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45886 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:18 pm to
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Federal real ID
Why? Each state now has to provide RealID. I have a RealID Texas license. Meets federal regs.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29782 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14244 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:24 pm to
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Much like your idiotic statement concerning the Odessa shooting, you apparently think the right to bear arms is relegated to self defense only.

You have me curious now. I'm assuming you posted a well-reasoned response to my post about Odessa. (I'm going to be disappointed if it's just another dumbasse emoji).

I didn't say the right was relegated to anything. I said the Court said it was related to the fundamental right of self defense, since the underlying law that was being considered dealt with keeping arms in the home.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73514 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:24 pm to
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I said the Court said it was related to the fundamental right of self defense, since the underlying law that was being considered dealt with keeping arms in the home.
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
798 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:30 pm to
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I support that 100%. I assume you are going to send that ID to everyone who is eligible to vote, correct?


How would the federal government know everyone that is eligible to vote? To the best of my knowledge, the federal government keeps no such registry. I'm not sure many people on the left or right would want such registry for privacy reasons. More important, attempts at even getting close to this information, i.e. the Federal government just seeking to know the legality of citizenship on census questions, is being vehemently fought in the court system. That particular fight has been mostly supported by the same groups that would want to deny any voter id laws.

At best, the federal government may be able to provide a REAL id to anyone that is registered to vote, but that would require some interaction with state agencies. Moreover, it would still require registration, and to be a REAL Id, likely verification and authentication of identity.

I don't like the bargain of trading a constitutional right to implement a mechanism for better law enforcement or fraud prevention. Nevertheless, I'm interested to see how what you propose is even feasible. More specifically, if there is a potential bargain that would reduce fraud without a trade of a constitutional right that would satisfy factions that are ideologically opposed to voter authentication requirements, that would be worth discussion.
This post was edited on 9/6/19 at 2:49 pm
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14244 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:32 pm to
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In that case, Einstein, how does the person's photo get on the ID? Since it is called a "government issued photo ID"...
Simple. Satellite images.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49101 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:38 pm to
officially retarded
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14244 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:43 pm to
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Elitist white progressives do think that that little of minorities but the underlying reason is that they know illegal immigrants can't vote with voter ID laws

Ahhhh. The voter fraud myth.

Anyway, the vast majority of whatever voter fraud is committed, is committed through absentee voting. So, voter ID won't solve that.

So, what is the real reason you want Voter IDs?

(Voting IDs won't solve the real problem -- much the same type of argument which is made by guns rights supporters about background checks).
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14244 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:44 pm to
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officially retarded
Look up, so we can get yours.
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
798 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:47 pm to
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Simple. Satellite images.


Probably not technically feasible. However, what if the federal government hired a bunch of people to go door-to-door to ask questions about voter eligibility, such as citizenship, date of birth, and any other requirements imposed by the Federal Voter registration act (as from time to time amended) and applicable state law. If the person is eligible and desires to vote, they could take their picture, and have them fill out a form for a REAL Id? That might be economicially feasible every 10 years. In the interim, private organizations could be authorized to do similar type items (subject to federal qualification) and be funded with charitable contributions?
This post was edited on 9/6/19 at 2:49 pm
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14244 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:47 pm to
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I said the Court said it was related to the fundamental right of self defense, since the underlying law that was being considered dealt with keeping arms in the home.


You see now why emojis suck?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14244 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:57 pm to
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I would be floored if requiring an ID would have a disproportionate effect on blacks. I have never heard an actual black person complain about this. I have heard white liberals say that this is so, but I have never seen any basis for it.

I was in church a while back and an old black woman came into the church in the middle of the service. I was irritated that she would think it was OK to come into church that late.

On the way home I saw her again. She was walking home from church. She lived about a mile and a half from church.

How many of you walk a mile and a half to church?
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
798 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 3:08 pm to
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I was in church a while back and an old black woman came into the church in the middle of the service. I was irritated that she would think it was OK to come into church that late.



Why would that bother you? Did she make a commotion or interfere in your worship? My experiences may be limited, but I presume that most would be happy to have another member of the congregation, and even happier if that person could help contribute to the church mission through deed or contribution.

quote:

On the way home I saw her again. She was walking home from church. She lived about a mile and a half from church.



Did you offer her a ride? More important, did you offer her a ride in subsequent weeks for the service? Most important, would you offer her a ride to get a REAL Id?

quote:


How many of you walk a mile and a half to church?


I have in the past. I've walked even farther for other things that were important to me. I doubt there are many situations where I'd have to do that now, and in fairness, seriously doubt I'd have to walk at all (and if I did no more than 1/2 mile) to properly take care of any item needed to exercise my constitutional right to vote. I'm also happy to help others that would be eligible to vote do the same if they weren't able.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141006 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 3:09 pm to
Texdiddler doesn't go to church. Diddlers worship the devil.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29782 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 3:11 pm to
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I was in church a while back and an old black woman came into the church in the middle of the service. I was irritated that she would think it was OK to come into church that late. On the way home I saw her again. She was walking home from church. She lived about a mile and a half from church. How many of you walk a mile and a half to church?
And what the frick does that have to do with getting an ID?

Did you ask her if she was too stupid or poor to get an ID?
Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 3:12 pm to
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Do I detect the soft bigotry of voter suppression in your post. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.


And your dumb arse doesn’t even realize you are proving his point. You are a tard!
This post was edited on 9/6/19 at 3:13 pm
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32423 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 3:16 pm to
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There shouldn’t be background checks

So someone that just got out of prison for assault with a deadly weapon should be able prance right on down to Academy and buy a Sig .40
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