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re: HAMAS is the new BLM and it’s not even November yet

Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:01 am to
Posted by stout
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:01 am to
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Its remarkable just how much of a tard hes is



I guess he is accusing me of sympathizing with Jews or trying to.

That means he must have missed the countless arguments I have made about how Jews are the only religion that tries to garner sympathy by calling everything anti-semantic and also trying to claim to be a race to gain race-baiting sympathy too despite nowhere in the world being classified as a race.
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:02 am to
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It’s baffling to me how the left can get so much support behind it. Knowing that if the rioters and supporters had to join the miscreants they support they would quickly lose their grip.


These people are mentally weak. They lack a moral code. Their parents lack a moral code. They manufacture these woe is me situations in their normal everyday lives and then the minute the left makes them think anyone gives a shite about their opinion they become loud, useful idiots.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:02 am to
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Link me


He can't because he is making crap up
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
8218 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:03 am to
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What Jewish person that hasn't openly supported Israel has been attacked/disrupted?


Fox News of all places showed them blocking access to any Jewish person on the campuses. It matters not what they 'support'. These are just people walking around trying to access the library or random buildings. It has nothing to do with what they 'support' it's happening to all of them which is what the issue is - the minority are suffering because of the majority's voting patterns.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:04 am to
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These people are mentally weak. They lack a moral code. Their parents lack a moral code.

This is a bad argument.

This Israel-Palestine situation fits perfectly into their worldview and morality.

You (and I) just disagree with that worldview and morality
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
8218 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:04 am to
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He can't because he is making crap up


What am I 'making up'? Tell me.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:06 am to
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This is a bad argument.

This Israel-Palestine situation fits perfectly into their worldview and morality.

You (and I) just disagree with that worldview and morality



I agree with you about them seeing this as moral but to his point you have to be mentally weak to come to that conclusion because that means you have to ignore facts and reality.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:06 am to
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He can't because he is making crap up


I get what the right is trying to do, by playing fast and loose with the people being attacked as "Jews" and not "Zionist/Israel-first types".

So when there is a clip of some IF type being accosted, they play it up as "OMG THEY'RE ATTACKING JEWS. THIS IS EXACTLY LIKE NAZI GERMANY"
Posted by stout
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:08 am to
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So when there is a clip of some IF type being accosted, they play it up as "OMG THEY'RE ATTACKING JEWS. THIS IS EXACTLY LIKE NAZI GERMANY"


No different than the games the left plays

The reality is they are attacking anyone not pro HAMAS
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:08 am to
Greenwald and Tracey (two Jews, by the way) have been mocking this idea that Jews are persecuted now.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:09 am to
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you have to be mentally weak to come to that conclusion because that means you have to ignore facts and reality.


Well they have the marginalized/oppressor group dynamics at the heart of their worldview and morality, and Palestine/Israel works there

There is also their favorite "colonialism" accusation (both how we got here and how Israel operates)

The stretch is when they try to make it racial, b/c the Jewish people in Israel are not often "white". I did just see a clip of some pro-Palestinian guy on YT talking about how we "see them as white, so it counts" basically. Silly
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
8218 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:10 am to
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I guess he is accusing me of sympathizing with Jews or trying to.


Nope. These people are mainly suffering because of their voting patterns. There is no conspiracy here. I don't care what your thoughts are on Jewish people. You continue to deny what is the root cause here. This is 100% self inflicted by voting and ideology. Is it fair? Absolutely not but certain actions have reactions. That's all I am saying. You are trying to pin this on some 'playbook' like that even matters these agitators will do what they want to do regardless. You can go all the way back to 1968 Dem convention as evidence.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:11 am to
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No different than the games the left plays

This is what they're trying to do, but it's only working within the echo chamber and is marginalizing that idea outside the echo chamber.

Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
171257 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:11 am to
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Well they have the marginalized/oppressor group dynamics at the heart of their worldview and morality, and Palestine/Israel works there

There is also their favorite "colonialism" accusation (both how we got here and how Israel operates)



This is operating on emotions and not rationale thinking. You have to ignore a lot of history and facts to even get here.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
29651 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:12 am to
These fake causes are being pushed in order to attempt a reaction.

Just like J6. One massive set up..
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
435758 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:12 am to
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Greenwald and Tracey (two Jews, by the way) have been mocking this idea that Jews are persecuted now.


That's a really good Tweet.

Anyone who is in any way slightly educated on the issue laughs at the absurdity. The Left can't meme and the Right can't social justice.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
435758 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:14 am to
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This is operating on emotions and not rationale thinking.

Naw. Those paradigms are rational in nature.

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You have to ignore a lot of history and facts to even get here.

That also depends on framing.

You can make a colonialism-based argument re: Palestine going back literally to Rome.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
78943 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:14 am to
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Greenwald and Tracey (two Jews, by the way)


prolly your classic ATHEIST JOOS

they have been around a long time. look it up.
Posted by Statestreet
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Member since Sep 2008
13434 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:22 am to
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So when there is a clip of some IF type being accosted, they play it up as "OMG THEY'RE ATTACKING JEWS. THIS IS EXACTLY LIKE NAZI GERMANY"


so they stole a page from Chapter 1 of being a Good Little Democrat?
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
10775 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:28 am to
BLM differed as it was, at its core, supportive of the anti privilege message. Both white and black had their list of offenses.

Hamas vs Israel, Palestinians vs. Jews doesn't have the same level of relevance or interest.
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