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re: If Trump is convicted, do you change your perception of him?

Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48278 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:25 pm to
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This is about Trump lying about the payments to Cohen and what they were for under the guise of “legal services” for reimbursement of the hush money that Cohen fronted. That is straight up fraudulent.


That didn’t happen.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15409 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:25 pm to
No. There is no evidence he did anything illegal.

fricking a slut isn’t illegal (and I’m not even all the way sure I believe he did Stormy).

An NDA is not illegal.

Being a bad orange man isn’t illegal.

There is no crime. Just hate.


If some evidence were produced that Trump stole money or took a bribe or something, that would change my mind.

I’ve never seen any such thing. Just a bunch of people who hate the guy and assume that their opinion means he is guilty of something. They’re really not even sure of what.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56453 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

If Trump is convicted, do you change your perception of him?



Everyone knows these are not real trials. Of course they are going to convict him.

quote:

’m hoping in 2028 we don’t have this type of drama among the candidates


Democrats will do anything to win. So, you either want complete domination by the Democrats or you want the impossible.

Posted by OzonaOkapi
Patrolling the Edwards Plateau
Member since Apr 2024
400 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:28 pm to
I withdraw my prior comments, We have found the unicorn ,.. someone who not only believes that Trump did not pay Daniels, but that he did not even pound her.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101347 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:29 pm to
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OzonaOkapi


Is this the alter someone was talking about outing as that Hank goober?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50268 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:32 pm to
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his is about Trump lying about the payments to Cohen and what they were for under the guise of “legal services” for reimbursement of the hush money that Cohen fronted. That is straight up fraudulent.


That didn’t happen.


Think this matters to Progressives?

They will lie about anything.

What concerns me about this is who will they start jailing next.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11017 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:33 pm to
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If Trump is convicted, do you change your perception of him?


No, and I can't believe anyone with an IQ over 80 believes any of these charges are legit.

Deemed a criminal? So you're sub 80 on the scale huh?
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27529 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:34 pm to
Of any of the current crimes he's accused of? No. Conviction will not change my opinion and I'll still vote for him. I still believe he will be in jail before the election or between the election and inauguration and I still plan on voting for him as long as he is available on the ballot.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12549 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:36 pm to
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I’m hoping in 2028 we don’t have this type of drama among the candidates, but that might be a pipe dream. Precedent is being set before our eyes.


Were you born before GW Bush? They were trying to bring him up on war crimes. A sitting Senator (at the time) literally got up and lied…. Absolutely straight up LIED and told the American people that Mitt Romney didn’t pay his taxes.

This theater is going to absolutely continue and it’s hilarious to think that they are going to cease using lawfare.
Posted by tigerlion
Member since Jul 2009
764 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

But for the level headed Trump supporters, what if your candidate is a criminal?


You forgot the quotation marks around “criminal.”
Posted by LazloHollyfeld
Steam Tunnel at UNC-G
Member since Apr 2009
1591 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:57 pm to
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That is straight up fraudulent


Who has been defrauded?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131359 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:00 pm to
Hank, remember when you said lawfare was more a tool of the right?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131359 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:02 pm to
OzonaOkapi means “Pedo Hank” in Japanese.
Posted by Longdriver98
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Nov 2005
3074 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:03 pm to
Hell no because this trial (if you want to call it that) is a sham. Imagine the media outrage if this was done to a demorat?
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
49132 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:06 pm to
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level headed Trump supporters

This group knows Trump is being Railroaded by an out of control democrat party.
Posted by LSUBALLER
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
16078 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:10 pm to
Yeap, if convicted I will vote for him twice!
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
7314 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:13 pm to
I prefer to base my perception on the facts instead of the decision of a judge or jurors. Courts get things wrong all the time, especially when politics are involved.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62879 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:14 pm to
Will yours change if he's acquitted and it becomes clear all of these indictments were election interference and lawfare?
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
7314 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:27 pm to
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Were you born before GW Bush? They were trying to bring him up on war crimes. A sitting Senator (at the time) literally got up and lied…. Absolutely straight up LIED and told the American people that Mitt Romney didn’t pay his taxes.

This theater is going to absolutely continue and it’s hilarious to think that they are going to cease using lawfare.


I think when the democrats try these same tactics they’ve tried with every Republican presidential candidate, and stepped them up with Trump, on the first post-Trump Republican nominee, the public could have an aha moment and turn on the democrats. That’s my hope anyway.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 5:29 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80026 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:30 pm to
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A sitting Senator (at the time)


Not just a Senator, the Senate Minority Leader
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