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NYT Siena state poll results with RFK Jr. included. It’s even worse for Biden.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:58 am
Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:58 am
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:02 am to cajunangelle
In every state listed, the difference is almost identical to the share of the vote that the 3rd party candidates are taking.
This is exactly what happened in 2016 and the only reason Trump won.
The reason that's scary is that if the 3rd party candidates drop out, they are dead even.
The Democrats responded to 2016 by getting Jill Stein kicked off the ballot in two states that Trump "flipped" in 2016, which is why they "flipped back" in 2020.
This is exactly what happened in 2016 and the only reason Trump won.
The reason that's scary is that if the 3rd party candidates drop out, they are dead even.
The Democrats responded to 2016 by getting Jill Stein kicked off the ballot in two states that Trump "flipped" in 2016, which is why they "flipped back" in 2020.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:03 am to cajunangelle
It feels like this election is death spiraling out of control from them.
That makes me believe that the measures to maintain power will become more desperate and bold. I'm going to guess we get an early October surprise here soon, maybe multiple.
That makes me believe that the measures to maintain power will become more desperate and bold. I'm going to guess we get an early October surprise here soon, maybe multiple.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:05 am to cajunangelle
WI, MI, & PA too close.
None of this matter if MAGA can’t beat the cheat and win at least one of these 3 states.
The road to 270 requires at least one.
None of this matter if MAGA can’t beat the cheat and win at least one of these 3 states.
The road to 270 requires at least one.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:09 am to wackatimesthree
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which is why they "flipped back" in 2020.
Even it if thats true, youd have to get all those voters back in to vote for Biden. This after one of the worst 4 years in the last 44 years of terms. The guys going to go down as one of the worst presidents of all time. The only way you get a historic turn out for that is if you are ballot harvesting.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:10 am to Paddyshack
Oh they have plan Z. have zero doubt. they are so arrogant Biden wasn't even on the ballot in many States and they dissed all but SC for the faux Biden.
Wray keeps warning about a terror attack. They think a 911 type of event will elect Joe or cancel elections.
I think the arrogance of them choosing Biden will bite them in the arse, and if people are energized to go vote will vote for Cornell West.
Wray keeps warning about a terror attack. They think a 911 type of event will elect Joe or cancel elections.
I think the arrogance of them choosing Biden will bite them in the arse, and if people are energized to go vote will vote for Cornell West.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:11 am to cajunangelle
The cheating this time is going to be at all time highs for the democrats
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:23 am to wackatimesthree
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The reason that's scary is that if the 3rd party candidates drop out, they are dead even.
You're assuming that all third party votes would go to Biden. I don't share that same assumption.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:31 am to wackatimesthree
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The Democrats responded to 2016 by getting Jill Stein kicked off the ballot in two states that Trump "flipped" in 2016, which is why they "flipped back" in 2020.
Right, the difference in 2020 was no Jill stein, not massive fraud. Every week, we get new information supporting fraud. Holding on to this narrative at this point makes you look even dumber than before.Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:34 am to wackatimesthree
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The reason that's scary is that if the 3rd party candidates drop out, they are dead even.
I thought RFK Jr was taking votes from Trump. That's what they say...
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:37 am to BlackPawnMartyr
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The only way you get a historic turn out for that is if you are ballot harvesting.
Well... get ready for a historic turn out then!!
You know they have thousands of people already working behind the scenes to ensure Biden beats his "81 million" votes from 2020.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:40 am to cajunangelle
It's scary that oolls are so close. How people would vote for status quo. I would never understand.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:42 am to Load Toad
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It's scary that oolls are so close. How people would vote for status quo. I would never understand.
Polls before a certain point are registered voters and not likely voters. And the pollsters tend not to claim a race is out of reach early.
It likely means that Biden’s actual polling is dismal and they are nominally keeping him in the race to prevent a Carter 1980 situation where it was such a route that it killed down ticket Dems.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:47 am to cajunangelle
This is very fishy.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:51 am to Bunk Moreland
If the admin has been importing Muslims wholesale, are they still foreign?
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:55 am to cajunangelle
I know alot of people may not want to vote for Trump, but I will never understand how anyone can vote for that piece of shite Biden after the last four years. He can barely even speak.
Do these people not have any pride in America?
Do these people not have any pride in America?
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:57 am to dnm3305
How many of these people actually vote vs their ballots being harvested?
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:06 pm to Homesick Tiger
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You're assuming that all third party votes would go to Biden. I don't share that same assumption.
And they may not, but I'm thinking that anybody on the right who is going to vote for RFK Jr. is a populist crank who has become disaffected with Trump.
There are some of those out there, but I don't think that many.
I KNOW Jill Stein voters are either voting for Biden or less likely, staying home. Again, this has already happened once. With Stein on the ballot Trump won Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Without her, he lost both of them.
And populists don't care about results. The ones on the left or the right.
Leftist populists don't care how bad Biden has been. That wont' affect their voting at all. They aren't even voting for Biden. They're voting against Trump, because to them Trump represents "The Man" that all populists seek to destroy.
To populists on the right, "The Man" is Anybody But Trump And Vivek.
So...
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:40 pm to cajunangelle
IMO, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada are done deals. That gets him to 268.
Trump just needs one more state. PN. WI, MI, Minn., Maine and Virginia are all possibilities, in that order.
Trump just needs one more state. PN. WI, MI, Minn., Maine and Virginia are all possibilities, in that order.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:41 pm to cajunangelle
Let’s heckin gooooooo fellow Patriots
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