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One of my favorite promises of Trump 2024 - bringing back World's Fairs

Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:55 pm
Posted by anc
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:55 pm
Here is what American cities looked like a century ago:



At the turn of the 20th century, American cities transformed swathes of their centers into huge architectural displays — all for great exhibitions called the World's Fairs...

St. Louis had Venetian gondolas!



What was it all for?

They were celebrations of humanity. Nations came together to showcase advances in culture and technology inside great "pavilions".

Cities took turns hosting them. Some of the best were in Paris, and there was a lot of one-upmanship between nations — especially as the geopolitical torch was passing from Europe to the New World.

Fairs were sometimes opportunities for cities to bounce back from disaster. Chicago put on maybe the greatest ever event, just 22 years after being gutted by an inferno.

The fairs remind us what great architectural design could have done for American cities. They once sparked the "City Beautiful movement": a short-lived philosophy that believed architectural beauty could foster social cohesion in cities.

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Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:56 pm to
Liberator will be along soon...
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:58 pm to
In New Orleans we got boobies!

Posted by Leto II
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:58 pm to
When was the last World’s Fair?
I went to the one in New Orleans in 84 when I was a kid
Posted by Pecker
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:59 pm to
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One of my favorite promises of Trump 2024

One of your "favorite"?
Posted by anc
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:01 pm to
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One of your "favorite"?



Yes, pecker. I believe that beauty in our cities is important.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:05 pm to
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One of my favorite promises of Trump 2024 - bringing back World's Fairs


Hooray! More spending!
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:06 pm to
These were great when America had a functional economy.
Posted by TigerVespamon
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:08 pm to


I was there.
Posted by FearlessFreep
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:08 pm to
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In New Orleans we got boobies!
and The Go-Gos!!

their boobies were worth looking at in ‘84

Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:09 pm to
That will be awesome. Especially with no fat people.
Posted by Pecker
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:09 pm to
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Yes, pecker. I believe that beauty in our cities is important.
It is one of a great many "important" things. There are many campaign promises.

That said, this thread feels like a larp.

ETA: you don't have to promote beautiful architecture. Beautiful architecture comes with having a population of European heritage. If you don't have that then it won't matter how many fairs you have
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 5:13 pm
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:12 pm to
Fun fact about the 1984 world's fair, on May 30th there was a solar eclipse that passed over New Orleans. I was 6 so don't remember if we were in the path of totality, but I remember being there and going outside for it. I also remember sitting on OJ Simpson's lap and getting his autograph at the fair. Probably wasn't the same day, but last week brought back some memories.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:18 pm to
same
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:18 pm to
World Fairs were just masquerades to destroy old world architecture and buildings...
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:31 pm to
EXACTLY!!
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:33 pm to

Just go to EPCOT and you get the same effect.
Posted by LSUgusto
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 7:05 pm to
New Orleans has hosted two world's fairs, and both of them helped rescue the city, even though they both were financial flops.

The 1984 fair brought a wave of revitalization, which helped sustain the city for the next 20 years.

The 1884 fair helped pull New Orleans out of the post-war economic malaise and helped establish it as a destination city among "must see" attractions in America.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 7:18 pm to
i found this

quote:

How the ‘World of Tomorrow’ Became a Thing of the Past

What happened to the World’s Fair? On April 30th, which marks the 75th anniversary of the 1939 World’s Fair in Flushing Meadows, the question becomes especially poignant. How did the global cultural events that inaugurated broadcast television (New York 1939), built the Eiffel Tower (Paris 1889), and introduced the world to the Ferris Wheel (Chicago 1893) disappear?

Actually, they haven’t: World’s Fairs haven’t gone anywhere, it’s just America that has moved on.

The next World’s Fair is scheduled for Spring 2015 in Milan Italy, but expo-goers who are looking to catch the latest glimpse at the “world of tomorrow,” will be disappointed. “A lot of Americans imagine World’s Fairs as they were in the 1930s and the 1960s, but the medium has changed,” says World’s Fair consultant Urso Chappell. “Whereas the focus was on progress or the space age and things like that at one time, the themes tend to be more environmental now,” he adds.

With smaller scope and a concentration on solving problems rather than trumpeting triumphs, World’s Fairs just don’t capture the imagination like they used to. Milan’s theme — Feeding the planet, energy for life — focuses on ending hunger and developing food sustainability. By contrast, the 1939 World’s Fair’s Dawn of a New Day slogan exuded aspirational wonder and 1964’s (which had its 50th anniversary last week), centered on Peace Through Understanding.

Then there’s the problem of proximity. There hasn’t been a World’s Fair in North America since 1986 in Vancouver. During the Fairs’ heydays, wealthy and middle class families would make pilgrimages across the seas to meccas of modernization to see the wonders firsthand, but the internet put an end to that. “I don’t know today how a World’s Fair can be viable, because everybody has a camera in their pocket,” says Louise Weinberg, World’s Fair Archive Manager at the Queens Museum. A quick search on your phone has replaced an expensive trip to a foreign country.

Cost plays a significant role too. Unlike the Olympics, which occasionally have made money for their host cities, there’s no profit from hosting a Fair. “Running a Fair is a losing proposition, you don’t do it to make money” says Weinberg.

Prestige was the prime motivator for hosting Worlds Fairs. Some of New York’s most prominent political figures like Robert Moses, Fiorello LaGuardia and Grover Whalen performed Herculean feats (and spent gobs of money) in order to bring the two Fairs to New York. Now the U.S. leaves the bidding to developing or resurgent countries looking to impress the rest of the world.

But while the U.S hash’t hosted a Fair in decades, it’s still participating in them. Barack Obama announced more than a year in advance that America will participate in Milan’s Expo in 2015, and U.S. cities are already bidding to host ones much further out. “There’s groups in Minneapolis looking to [host the Worlds Fair in] 2023, there’s groups in San Francisco and Houston looking at 2025, so hopefully we will see a World’s Fair in North America sometime soon,” says World’s Fair consultant Chappell. To avoid slipping from “the world of tomorrow” to “the world of the past,” the new U.S. Fairs will have to harken back to the old New York Fairs’ sense of wonder and aspiration.


it sounds like they went all climate change and gave up on the world of tomorrow stuff
Posted by Tarps99
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 7:59 pm to
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The 1984 fair brought a wave of revitalization, which helped sustain the city for the next 20 years. The 1884 fair helped pull New Orleans out of the post-war economic malaise and helped establish it as a destination city among "must see" attractions in America.


The 2084 Worlds Fair in New Orleans will be the first World’s Fair held under water and will revitalize the city into a modern day functioning Atlantis under water embracing climate change.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 8:00 pm
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