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re: The MSM (Lying Media) collectively shuts up about the bridge destruction in Baltimore

Posted on 3/31/24 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by Padme
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 12:26 pm to
We could have been born in harder times, when our lives depended upon the yearly harvest,

We could have been born into the dark ages or as slaves of the Roman Empire,

But God has so blessed us to be born in America, to be able to partake of the all wise SFP, on an almost daily rhythm
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 1:00 pm to
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Posted by chili pup
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 1:04 pm to
Your Hussein President allowed this to happen.

That bill needs to be burned on day one of the Trump administration. That's one of the first things I would make sure happens. They would get rid of this left wing propaganda BS. Many from CNN and MSNBC would quit.
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Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 1:07 pm to
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Of you're gonna terrorist a bridge ,you're not going to issue a Mayday and do all these different things to try to stop a ship.


Not everyone may have been in on it
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 1:09 pm to
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However going astern to slow the ship was a mistake as the direction of the screw in reverse naturally pulls the stern to port. The best move imho would've been to stay the course and skirt the support at worst and possibly avoiding collision all together.


Oh, so it was not a "mistake". That makes me feel so much better.

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Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 1:09 pm to
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Posted by chili pup
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 1:09 pm to
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What proof is there of this being a terrorist attack?


This was not a terrorist attack. This was a uh oh, the ship lost power and we unfortunately they were in that spot at that time. Just a major accident. That's all I see in it. It's not much you can do at that time. It's a big frigging ship.
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Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 1:15 pm to
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Baltimore harbor is the only port shipping coal and LNG to Europe.

It’s the only port on the east coast that can handle larger loads than containers. That means major electrical equipment: power generators, steam turbines, transformers, etc.

That bridge is the major road connecting north and south for commerce. The tunnels through Baltimore cannot handle hazardous materials or oversized loads.

Cyber terrorism.

The ship was supposedly turning left to avoid the main support structure but it veered right.

The head of the Baltimore FBI field office was named by Christopher Wray on Monday before the bridge was brought down. Right away he came out to say no terrorism. Without investigating?

Lara Logan is reporting sources from intelligence agencies said terrorism from both active and retired intelligence agents.

There are no coincidences.




No one at all talking about the plain and simple truth that authorities were too fricking stupid to learn anything from the Sunshine Skyway Bridge disaster in 1980 and put in place the concrete barriers that the Sunshine Skyway has now. They would have prevented this.



Posted by chili pup
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 1:43 pm to
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Sunshine Skyway Bridge disaster in 1980 and put in place the concrete barriers that the Sunshine Skyway has now. They would have prevented this.


You do need a deterrent on a large major bridge. That's good tax dollars going to work and so are people. But for some other reason we need to fund Ukraine or another DEI programs.
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Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 2:09 pm to
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Sunshine Skyway Bridge disaster in 1980 and put in place the concrete barriers that the Sunshine Skyway has now. They would have prevented this.


You do need a deterrent on a large major bridge. That's good tax dollars going to work and so are people. But for some other reason we need to fund Ukraine or another DEI program.


Agreed. And they could have done this back when Ukraine was part of the USSR and DEI didn't exist.

Every similar bridge in America needs to be outfitted like this.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 2:15 pm to
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Why would you let the pilot,who isn't in on it, try to save the ship?


You’re assuming the ship was in his control
Posted by tigersandsaints
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 2:16 pm to
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Baltimore harbor is the only port shipping coal and LNG to Europe.


I work in the maritime industry and this is a no
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Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 2:31 pm to
Yes, sometimes smart qualified people make the wrong decision, especially in an emergency situation. The reason the ship turned to starboard was primarily due to going full astern. Do I think it was nefarious plan, not a chance in hell. That said, every decision will be thoroughly examined and critiqued. We'll see what the report says in time.
Posted by Hognutz
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 2:36 pm to
Every word uttered on the bridge is recorded on the VDR. If the Captain took control away from the pilot, investigators will know, and at the exact time he did. It really doesn't matter too much though as the Captain is ultimately responsible regardless.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 2:54 pm to
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Every word uttered on the bridge is recorded on the VDR. If the Captain took control away from the pilot, investigators will know, and at the exact time he did. It really doesn't matter too much though as the Captain is ultimately responsible regardless.


And you’re assuming the Captain was in control… if the ship was hacked, who knows who actually controlled it
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 3:08 pm to
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Lara lost a lot if not all credibilty here.


Her initial screed on X was full of half-truths and complete falsehoods whether by design or jumping the gun I have no idea. One example is that she heavily implied there was not a harbor pilot on board when in fact there were two Baltimore harbor pilots on board.

Everyone keeps focusing on the bridge which will indeed take a long time to replace but the shipping channel is the real issue. Unless something is really odd they will have a single emergency channel open within 2-4 weeks. There are already heavy lift cranes onsite starting the work. It will only allow single ships in oneway traffic to enter and exit but that channel generally operated like a single "no passing" channel anyway. I would not be surprised if they require tugs from berth to open water and vice versa which will add expense and possibly time but it isn't crippling.

As far as the bridge goes it mainly just adds to traffic in and around Baltimore for the foreseeable future. It will be bad but likely not as bad as the years they were building the new Wilson bridge in the DC beltway. The main issue is the Key was the shortest north/south route for Hazmat through the area. The tunnels on 895 and 95 are restricted. This isn't the end of the world like Lara predicted because Hazmat can just go the opposite way around 695 which adds about 15 miles to the trip. I would admit is you have a business in Curtis Bay (large industrial area) and get Hazmat materials routinely from Dundalk it would add a significant amount of time to what would usually be a sub-10 minute trip across the Key.



Is it possible that there was someone with some intention to cause this? Sure. However, at this point, there is zero factual basis for that. If you live your life with the conviction there are no coincidences then everything that happens in life would be a conspiracy. Have a flat tire headed to a huge client meeting? That was clearly caused by that other company trying to steal your client ad infinitum.
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 3:42 pm to
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Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 3:44 pm to
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Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 3:45 pm to
Does the media not know Baltimore is a majority black city? You’d think this would be in the news as a result of white supremacy for the next 2 weeks.
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 3:51 pm to
That’s all good theory but when else would you interfere with power? An hour before? No, a few minutes before the point of no recovery. The crew did all they could in the moment. Not ruling out sabotage and not ruling out pure coincidence.
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