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Trump is a lifelong limousine liberal who did nothing to shrink the federal government

Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:34 pm
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:34 pm
The progressive left pushed the Democratic Party so far extreme that the Republican Party in 2024 is the Democratic Party of old. The Conservative Party of old is dead (and has been for some time) and actual small government conservatives have no home. For now this is true: They won. We lost.

Worse we’ve either accepted that fact or are willfully ignorant of it. Trump has convinced a bunch of people he’s some kind of small government conservative champion and his loyal followers parrot that narrative. The inability to question or discuss a politician’s stances or past record is championed by Trump and his followers.

Some of you are so giddy to vote for the arrogant jackass or so tired of fighting or so unwilling to fight you just slump to the booth and vote for the lesser of two evils rather than fight for what you know is good and right. And so every day we lose more ground and sacrifice more of our principles.

This country was founded on the principles of a limited federal government, an engaged and educated voting populace, and the willingness to fight for those things. We have lost the will to fight and accepted the destruction of those founding principles as a part of everyday life. It’s sad.

We need a party for those of us who are small government conservatives. And those of you who say “I could never support a third party because you’re just giving our opposing party a win” wake up. They’ve already won. Either fight back or sit down, shut up, and take orders from your authoritarian overlords.
Posted by Huskertiger2
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2020
748 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:34 pm to
Nice melt
Posted by DotBling
Member since Oct 2019
3077 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:34 pm to
Cry harder.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111707 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:34 pm to
Bro. I need my Social Security. I can’t vote third party.

-Someone who knows who they are
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56861 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:35 pm to
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Trump is a lifelong limousine liberal who did nothing to shrink the federal government
The progressive left pushed the Democratic Party so far extreme that the Republican Party in 2024 is the Democratic Party of old. The Conservative Party of old is dead (and has been for some time) and actual small government conservatives have no home. For now this is true: They won. We lost.

Worse we’ve either accepted that fact or are willfully ignorant of it. Trump has convinced a bunch of people he’s some kind of small government conservative champion and his loyal followers parrot that narrative. The inability to question or discuss a politician’s stances or past record is championed by Trump and his followers.

Some of you are so giddy to vote for the arrogant jackass or so tired of fighting or so unwilling to fight you just slump to the booth and vote for the lesser of two evils rather than fight for what you know is good and right. And so every day we lose more ground and sacrifice more of our principles.

This country was founded on the principles of a limited federal government, an engaged and educated voting populace, and the willingness to fight for those things. We have lost the will to fight and accepted the destruction of those founding principles as a part of everyday life. It’s sad.

We need a party for those of us who are small government conservatives. And those of you who say “I could never support a third party because you’re just giving our opposing party a win” wake up. They’ve already won. Either fight back or sit down, shut up, and take orders from your authoritarian overlords.




Tough night?
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
20125 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:35 pm to
So, are you voting Trump or not, in the general?
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28173 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:35 pm to
"Melt"


"TDS"



Etc
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
26091 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:36 pm to
Turn the AC back on because you are getting way too hot and your sweat is clearly melting on this board
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119178 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:36 pm to
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did nothing to shrink the federal government



Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56861 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:37 pm to
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We need a party for those of us who are small government conservatives


I'll give you a real response.

If you want this, you are going to have to deal with the shite show we have first. Our government is controlled by forces outside of government...and I'm not talking about voters.

There's a political movement that's solely dedicated to solving this problem. You are welcome to join it if you want.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19861 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:37 pm to
Trump is not an ideological liberal or an ideological conservative, he's a pragmatic problem solver and in this day and age most of the problems we face have left/liberal origins.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111707 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:38 pm to
Wow. He made some amazing, lasting legislative changes.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28173 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

There's a political movement that's solely dedicated to solving this problem


What progress was made on this front over 2017-2020?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111707 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

There's a political movement that's solely dedicated to solving this problem. You are welcome to join it if you want.


Flipping off the system doesn’t change anything.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162278 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:39 pm to
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Nice melt

The go to coward Trump cult response when they don't have an answer
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79415 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:40 pm to
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Flipping off the system doesn’t change anything.



It's not even working. The decline of the system and the culture have only accelerated since 2016.

I'm sure they'd claim it's because Trump brought them all out of the woodwork, but I see no evidence of doing anything to slow the decline. It's purely "We'll get revenge, score some policy wins that will be fleeting/unwound and double the rate of how substance-less we are as a people."
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141028 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:43 pm to
Muh heelz
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111707 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:44 pm to
Amoral people voting for some odd idea of Americana that can’t exist outside a moral framework are people with only a vestigial tail of the natural law in their minds. They can’t even understand that their own personal lack of commitment to morality is part of the larger play our country is acting out.

“Sure. I fricked my neighbor and divorced my wife and cheated in my business, but it’s the kids stealing from Target that are ruining our country.”

Everyone should be reading about the French Revolution and the Chinese Communist Revolution because we’re going to do an impersonation of one of those in the not-too-distant future.
Posted by LSUBALLER
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
16507 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:45 pm to
Political melt! That’s new
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141028 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:45 pm to
Stop resisting these true conservatives.
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