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What 10 Years of U.S. Meddling in Ukraine Have Wrought.

Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:17 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53628 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:17 pm
Little old naive SFP should read this. We did not just nudge things along. There is a bunch of material about Ukraine's ties to Russiagate that I am trying to process. This piece confirms for like the dozenth time what a filthy, corrupt playground that country was for our political class.
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According to Andrii Telizhenko, a former Ukrainian government official who worked closely with Western officials during this period, the U.S. government’s role went far beyond those high-profile displays of solidarity.

“As soon as it grew into something, into the bigger Maidan, in the beginning of December, it basically was full coordination with the U.S. Embassy,” Telizhenko recalls. “Full, full.”

When the protests erupted, Telizhenko was working as an adviser to a Ukrainian member of Parliament. Having spent part of his youth in Canada and the United States, Telizhenko’s fluent English and Western connections landed him a position helping to oversee the Maidan Movement’s international relations. In this role, he organized meetings with and coordinated security arrangements for foreign visitors, including U.S. Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt, Nuland, and McCain. Most of their briefings were held at Kyiv’s Trade Unions Building, the movement’s de-facto headquarters in the city’s center.

Telizhenko says Pyatt routinely coordinated with Maidan leaders on protest strategy. In one encounter, the ambassador observed Right Sector members assembling Molotov cocktails that would later be thrown at riot police attempting to enter the building. Sometimes, the U.S. ambassador disapproved of his counterparts’ tactics. “The U.S. embassy would criticize if something would happen more radical than it was supposed to go by plan, because it's bad for the picture,” Telizhenko said..

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In his memoir, former senior Obama aide Ben Rhodes acknowledged that Nuland and Pyatt “sounded as if they were picking a new government as they evaluated different Ukrainian leaders.” Rather than dispel that impression, he acknowledged that some of the Maidan “leaders received grants from U.S. democracy promotion programs.”

In 2012, one pro-Maidan group, Center UA, received most of its more than $500,000 in donations from the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), the National Endowment for Democracy, eBay founder Pierre Omidyar, and financier George Soros.

By its own count, Soros’ International Renaissance Foundation spent over $109 million in Ukraine between 2004 and 2014. In leaked documents, a former IRF board member even bragged that its partners “were the main driving force and the foundation of the Maidan movement,” and that without Soros’ funding, “the revolution might not have succeeded.” Weeks after the coup, an IRF strategy document noted, “Like during the Maidan protests, IRF representatives are in the midst of Ukraine’s transition process.”

Jeffrey Sachs, a Columbia University professor who advised Ukraine on economic policy in the early 1990s, visited Kyiv shortly after the coup to consult with the new government.

“I was taken around the Maidan where people were still milling around,” Sachs recalls. “And the American NGOs were around there, and they were describing to me: ‘Oh we paid for this, we paid for that. We funded this insurrection.’ It turned my stomach.” Sachs believes that these groups were acting at the behest of U.S. intelligence. To go about “funding this uprising,” he says, “they didn't do that on their own as nice NGOs. This is off-budget financing for a U.S. regime-change operation.”

Weeks after vowing to bring about a “transition” in Ukraine, Sen. Murphy openly took credit for it. “I really think that the clear position of the United States has in part been what has helped lead to this change in regime,” Murphy said. “I think it was our role, including sanctions and threats of sanctions, that forced, in part, Yanukovych from office.”

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On April 12, CIA chief John Brennan slipped into the Ukrainian capital for secret meetings with top officials. Russia, whose intelligence services ran a network of informants inside Ukraine, publicly outed Brennan’s visit. The Kremlin and Yanukovych directly accused Brennan of encouraging an assault on the Donbas.

The CIA dismissed the allegation as “completely false,” and insisted that Brennan supported a “diplomatic solution” as “the only way to resolve the crisis.” The following month, Brennan insisted that “I was out there to interact with our Ukrainian partners and friends.”

Yet Russia and Yanukovych were not alone in voicing concerns about the CIA chief’s covert trip. “What message does it send to have John Brennan, the head of the CIA in Kiev, meeting with the interim government?” Sen. Murphy complained. “Does that not confirm the worst paranoia on the part of the Russians and those who see the Kiev government as essentially a puppet of the West?... It may not be super smart to have Brennan in Kiev, giving the impression that the United States is somehow there to fight a proxy war with Russia.”

According to Telizhenko, who attended the Brennan meeting and spoke to RCI on record about it for the first time, that’s exactly what the CIA chief was there to do. Contrary to U.S. claims, Telizhenko says, “Brennan gave a green light to use force against Donbas,” and discussed “how the U.S. could support it.” One day after the meeting, Kyiv announced an “Anti-Terrorist Operation” (ATO) against the Donbas region and began a military assault.

Telizhenko, who was by then working as a senior policy adviser to Vitaliy Yarema, the First Deputy Prime Minister, says he helped arrange the Brennan gathering after getting a phone call from the U.S. embassy. “I was told there was going to be a top secret meeting, with a top U.S. official and that my boss should be there,” he recalls. “I was also told not to tell anyone.”

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Telizhenko says he was told to meet with veteran Democratic operative Alexandra Chalupa, who had also served in the Clinton White House. “The U.S. government and people from the Democratic National Committee are approaching and asking for dirt on a presidential candidate,” Telizhenko recalls. “And Chalupa said, ‘I want dirt. I just want to get Trump off the elections.’”

Starting in early 2016, U.S. officials leaned on the Ukrainians to investigate Paul Manafort, the GOP consultant who would become Trump’s campaign manager, and avoid scrutiny of Burisma, as RCI reported in 2022. “Obama’s NSC hosted Ukrainian officials and told them to stop investigating Hunter Biden and start investigating Paul Manafort,” a former senior NSC official told RCI. In January 2016, the FBI suddenly reopened a closed investigation into Manafort for potential money laundering and tax evasion connected to his work in Ukraine.

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Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
12106 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:19 pm to
Not reading all that.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124156 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:22 pm to
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What 10 Years of U.S. Meddling in Ukraine Have Wrought.


Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2379 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:31 pm to
Pretty much describes what a lot of us have known. Our govt. created this corrupt nation and caused a war.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
1699 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:41 pm to
USG sponsored NGOs are menace to any leader - democratic or not
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
49805 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:43 pm to
Obama lama dingdong fricked it all up
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24928 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:58 pm to
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There is a bunch of material about Ukraine's ties to Russiagate that I am trying to process. This piece confirms for like the dozenth time what a filthy, corrupt playground that country was for our political class.

I personally know people in the Oklahoma National Guard who were deployed to Ukraine in 2016 (ETA there, I typed that without my damn readers, sorry). During which Presidency? Barack Hussein Soerto's.

When they returned, I asked them all what they were even doing there, separately. They each answered "we were told we're there to teach Ukraine forces how to fight Russia". Every one of them said the exact same thing.

I knew back then that something was coming.

Then, Trump took office and exposed the other things happening there, and was fricking impeached for it. Yeah.

I knew it would escalate into something bigger.

It escalated into something bigger. And the USA has done everything possible to continue the ongoing strife and bloodshed and reject the notion of peace, all in defense of the international money laundering machine in Kiev. The Military Industrial Complex is being well fed, and in turn doing their part along with the see eye A to ensure that the instability continues.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 8:25 pm
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19913 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:59 pm to
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I personally know people in the Oklahoma National Guard who were deployed to Ukraine in 2026


What’s the future like, and did Trump win?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24928 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:00 pm to
Double posted. Apologies.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 8:24 pm
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24928 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 8:21 pm to
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What’s the future like, and did Trump win?

shite, my bad. Fixed.

And yes, Trump won in 2024, again, but once again Biden was chosen to illegitimately reside within the White House.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
1962 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 9:04 pm to
I highly suspect that Ukraine is the biggest cesspool of US and EU covert and illegal operations. This so called war is about protecting those operation than it about protecting Ukraine. The liberal Hollywood propaganda indicates it's a illegal Democrat hot ed of illegality.
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