re: Would you support government or Christian’s in the United States?

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Certainly not to convince others to be good people.

I'll leave the proselytizing to you, Craig.

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If only you would

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Those are tools for your worldview.

Atheists eat chocolate ice cream, too. So what.

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My worldview is based on love and truth. Fear in my worldview is respect, not terror. Control is what sin does to every person under its power. All people are controlled by something.

Atheists eat chocolate ice cream and they have no rational basis to condemn control, authority, or fear in any worldview, much less mine, because they have no source for objective moral reasoning.

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You're so close to getting it.

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Oh I understand what you're getting at but you are wrong.

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Authority doesn't mean objective.

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Again, you don't understand what the terms mean.

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Your moral standard is based on your interpretation of what others have told you is your god's moral standard.

Subjective.

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No, my moral standard is based on what God has said it should be.

Objective.

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We have subjective morality, and nothing more.

You don't know your god's character. You know what others have told you it is.

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No, we have objective morality that comes from the source of all that is morally good. God's character is the standard for objective morality.

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No, you don't.

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Yes, I do.

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You have your version.

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I have the truth. There are not versions of the truth, only the truth.

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Coincidentally, it does.

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If beliefs originate from a common source on purpose, I'm not so sure that counts as coincidence.

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YEEEEEEEUP

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Nah

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If only you would

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I have. That doesn't mean you'll have an easy road.

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My worldview is based on love and truth. 

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Maybe, but certainly control, authority, and fear.

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Atheists eat chocolate ice cream 

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Correct. They probably eat bacon, too.

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Oh I understand what you're getting at but you are wrong.

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Maybe, but I'm not convinced of that.

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Again, you don't understand what the terms mean.

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Authority doesn't mean objective.

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No, my moral standard is based on what God has said it should be.

Objective.

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Your moral standard is based on your interpretation of what others have told you is your god's moral standard.

Subjective.

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No, we have objective morality that comes from the source of all that is morally good. God's character is the standard for objective morality.

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We have subjective morality, and nothing more.

You don't know your god's character. You know what others have told you it is.

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Yes, I do.

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No, you don't.

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I have the truth.

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You have your version.

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If beliefs originate from a common source on purpose, I'm not so sure that counts as coincidence.

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Coincidentally, it does.

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Nah

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YEEEEEEEUP

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If I thought you would discuss these things in good faith, I'd actually give you a response.

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Let’s hear if you can do better than Ken Ham!

Got anything better than “God’s magic”? Just wondering.

ETA: I'm noticing this is your standard response to anything even you would feel like a jackass attempting to defend.

FooHamChoo is getting close to asking us if we were there when the universe was created.

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It is.

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It isn't

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Yes it does.

Knowing your emotions, and being open and honest about them aren't the same thing. It's fear.

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No, it doesn't.

I'm being honest about my emotions. Not fear.

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Can't wait.

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Only because you don't believe there will be any. I hope for your sake that God changes your heart before you have to find out.

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I argue against all religion. You're close to doing that same, but there's something holding you back.

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Other religions are just as wrong as the atheist is, but just because there are many wrong answers doesn't mean there isn't a right answer.

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You should spend less time preoccupied with who cares about what.

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The truth requires me to care about what others care about, at least to a certain extent. Unlike you, it seems.

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You're not making the road difficult at all.

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Nope. You are.

Thank you for your continued participation.

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That's just your version of it 

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Now you're getting it.

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They do a lot of things that don't have any purpose or meaning, even though they pretend that there's purpose and meaning in life.

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You don't eat bacon or ice cream?

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I suppose it's a good thing that the truth exists in spite of the denial of it by the blind.

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K. We'll see.

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Again, you don't understand what the terms mean.

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Authority doesn't mean objective.

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No, my moral standard is based on what God has said it should be.

Objective.

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Your moral standard is based on your interpretation of what others have told you is your god's moral standard.

Subjective.

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No, we have objective morality that comes from the source of all that is morally good. God's character is the standard for objective morality.

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We have subjective morality, and nothing more.

You don't know your god's character. You know what others have told you it is.

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Yes, I do.

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No, you don't.

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I have the truth.

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You have your version.

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Let’s hear if you can do better than Ken Ham!

Got anything better than “God’s magic”? Just wondering.

ETA: I'm noticing this is your standard response to anything even you would feel like a jackass attempting to defend.

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No, I've had these discussions many times over the years. I have no problem defending what I believe. The problem I have is with you, who aren't interested in debate, but just want to ridicule me. Whenever you have been shown to be wrong about something, you just ignore it and move on to the next topic. So like I said, you don't make good-faith arguments and therefore I'm not going to act like you are.

If you ever change your mind and act like a person who wants to have a serious discussion, I might oblige.

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If beliefs originate from a common source on purpose, I'm not so sure that counts as coincidence.

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Coincidentally, it does.

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Nah

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YEEEEEEEUP