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re: Universal Epic Universe Opening in 2025

Posted on 1/30/24 at 9:06 am to
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 1/30/24 at 9:06 am to
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There are rumors out there that Disney is going to do away with queuing. You will book experience via app and then just show up to ride at your time. They are doing this so people are walking around and spending money, rather than standing in lines for hours upon hours and not having access to throw $$$ to Disney. Its genius actually.



Heard the same, and we agree
Bigger issue at Disney is crowds, scooters & no capacity restrictions.

Universal really isn’t a “kids” park, IMO - more like Teenager and Up.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53963 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 9:06 am to
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Last trip to Disney was an 8 day trip. Went to Epcot twice. How many times did I get to ride Guardians of the Galaxy? Twice.

At Universal, my daughter rode Velocicoaster 6 times in a row, in the middle of the day. One of the most popular rides in the park, at the busiest time of the park!

Impossible at Disney.


Guardians isn't on G+, it's an individual person but yes....it can only be done twice per day (except if you have evening magic hours being a deluxe resort guest), then it can be done three times.

Once via virtual queue
Once via individual purchase
Once during evening magic hours virtual queue

The unlimited express pass is $110 - $310 per park / per day / per person, genie Plus is $25 or less.

So sure, if velocicoaster or guardians 6x was your goal you'll have better success at IoA but it will cost you more money overall than what Epcot would cost and IoA just isn't as good of a park overall.



Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3814 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 9:07 am to
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ts not just having to be on your phone the whole time, its not being able to ride the good rides more than once a day.



Are you serious?

Holy crap that is bad.

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At Universal, my daughter rode Velocicoaster 6 times in a row, in the middle of the day. One of the most popular rides in the park, at the busiest time of the park!



Yep, I think we knocked it out like 4-5 times each day. Minimum 1 on Hagrid's, usually 2-3.
This post was edited on 1/30/24 at 9:11 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31440 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 9:09 am to
you can do that at disney, just have to buy the ride time, no biggie


but frick...man guessing im gonna be going back to orlando in 2026 to spend 7 days at universal.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3814 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 9:11 am to
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but frick...man guessing im gonna be going back to orlando in 2026 to spend 7 days at universal.




That's a long time there. I loved it but think 4 days could be my mental max. It's a hard charging type trip. Fun. But worn the hell out at the end of each day.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3814 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 9:12 am to
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The unlimited express pass is $110 - $310 per park / per day / per person, genie Plus is $25 or less.


Definitely impacts people who can drive there more imo. It was a trip for us so we stayed on site for the experience, early access, and included express.
Posted by Jimbeaux28
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
4051 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 9:12 am to
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The unlimited express pass is $110 - $310 per park / per day / per person, genie Plus is $25 or less.


Staying at Loews Royal Pacific was the same cost as staying at Boardwalk - which you need to get the evening magic hours in your example.

Know what I got for free for staying at Royal Pacific? A free Unlimited Express Pass.

Never had to get on my phone my entire stay to do any of the hoop jumping you have to do at Disney to ride a ride 3 times.

All I had to do was scan my lanyard at every ride at the park with the exception of Hagrids.

Like I said earlier, until Genie+ is dead at Disney, Disney is dead to me. I have spent 10s of thousands at Disney too. Was the biggest Disney homer for 15 years.
This post was edited on 1/30/24 at 9:15 am
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53963 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 9:12 am to
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There are rumors out there that Disney is going to do away with queuing.



Yeah, thats not happening anytime in the foreseeable future. The vast majority of WDW guests on any given day are first timers and the amount of people who show up every single day with no idea what My Disney Experience even is incredible. Those virtual queues are incredibly expensive and can be useful for very popular (or new) attractions but they aren't going to move solely to virtual queues for all of their attractions.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53963 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 9:21 am to
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Staying at Loews Royal Pacific was the same cost as staying at Boardwalk - which you need to get the evening magic hours in your example.


I've stayed at all of the premier hotels at Universal and having the express pass included when we've already planned to stay premier is nice but there just isn't enough to use it on. Similar to Animal Kingdom in our minds.

Islands of Adventure we would use it on Hulk, Dr Doom, Velocicoaster and then Hogwarts Express to hop parks. At universal escape from gringots is really about it.

I mean, if you like 3d screen rides or you really want to do one of those rides over and over it's great but there just isn't enough that we really like to do in those two parks that make it worth the cost of the purchase OR a premier resort.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31440 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 9:31 am to
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That's a long time there. I loved it but think 4 days could be my mental max. It's a hard charging type trip. Fun. But worn the hell out at the end of each day.


yea we will have to look at it.

prolly disney for 4 days and then universal for 3.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10224 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 9:32 am to
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I've stayed at all of the premier hotels at Universal and having the express pass included when we've already planned to stay premier is nice but there just isn't enough to use it on. Similar to Animal Kingdom in our minds.

Islands of Adventure we would use it on Hulk, Dr Doom, Velocicoaster and then Hogwarts Express to hop parks. At universal escape from gringots is really about it.

I mean, if you like 3d screen rides or you really want to do one of those rides over and over it's great but there just isn't enough that we really like to do in those two parks that make it worth the cost of the purchase OR a premier resort.


Don't sleep on ET! Kids loved that one and it reminded me of some of the old school WDW rides.

As far as going all virtual queue, I don't know if the walkways/restaurants/shops have enough space to handle those crowds. I'm sure they'd love to have people spending money rather than standing in line, but it may not be logistically possible.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10224 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 9:39 am to
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Like I said earlier, until Genie+ is dead at Disney, Disney is dead to me. I have spent 10s of thousands at Disney too. Was the biggest Disney homer for 15 years.

My main beef is having to go to your phone more often. We all look at enough screens at home; I don't need to look at one on vacation.

The extra cost was necessary because the demand (park attendance) keeps going higher. The place is absurdly packed year round now. The parks reach a point where the infrastructure and labor can't keep up with the crowds.
They could have (maybe should have) just doubled the cost of park tickets and kept the system more basic.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
42325 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 9:41 am to
It looks great except for that How to Train Your Dragon garbage
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20950 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 9:44 am to
The only thing there that I'd be interested in is Super Nintendo World. But I'd check out everything.

I've been to Universal Orlando about 3 or 4 times, but haven't really experienced the movie rides since the 90s. They did a fantastic job back then and I always had a great time there.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20728 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 10:03 am to
As someone who has been to Disney more times than I can count when I was married and my kids were toddlers I went to universal in 3019 when my kids were teenagers and we had blast.

I’d still like to do star wars at Disney but universal is leaps and bounds better than Disney
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3814 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 10:16 am to
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I’d still like to do star wars at Disney but universal is leaps and bounds better than Disney




While I haven't been to Disney in a long time, I think it comes down to if you're a thrill rider or not. I'm a thrill seeker so Universal is the choice for me. I don't get people who will go to Disney just for the theming etc. It's odd to me. Shopping bores me too.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3814 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 10:42 am to
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It looks great except for that How to Train Your Dragon garbage




That a screen ride?
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3814 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 10:43 am to
Happy to see this come directly from Universal too. It thought the video was going to be a 3rd party.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
42325 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 10:46 am to
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That a screen ride?
not sure - just don’t think that franchise is popular enough to have its own section
Posted by SpaceCamp
Member since Nov 2020
292 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 11:08 am to
Not interesting. Disney is currently bigger than Universal - 4 theme parks versus 2, 2 water parks versus 1, 25-ish hotels versus 8. Of course, they are making more money.

Bigger doesn't equate to being better though. I would much rather stay onsite at Universal. Even their value resorts are great. Disney's value resorts are motel-style. Universal's are hotel style with indoor hallways, suites, a fitness center, and a Starbucks. Plus, their resort transportation is excellent.
This post was edited on 1/30/24 at 11:41 am
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