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re: Worst modern President

Posted on 5/6/24 at 8:18 am to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72631 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 8:18 am to
Clinton started those wars in the 90s. Anyone who thinks we shouldn't have gone to Afghanistan and Iraq is a moron.
Posted by BlueMoonOfKentucky
Member since Feb 2024
160 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 8:19 am to
The worst president ever in my life is obama. And I don't even count biden as president I see biden as obama's third term for president and I even saw a video of obama saying joe biden is his third term for president.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
5062 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 8:23 am to
quote:

The worst president ever in my life is obama


- no one got to buy in the stock market and sell out higher than Obama
Think it was more market timing than Obama politics

- Clinton started Iraq and Afghan wars?
Posted by BlueMoonOfKentucky
Member since Feb 2024
160 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 8:30 am to
I still stand by my statement of obama being the worst president of my life.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36483 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 8:31 am to
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Anyone who thinks we shouldn't have gone to Afghanistan and Iraq is a moron.


Delusional.

Both wars were a waste (Russia would agree about afghan), but especially Iraq. We had zero reason to be there. Afghan we at least had a bone to pick with the government hiding terrorists while multiple global attacks happened.
This post was edited on 5/6/24 at 8:32 am
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21065 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 8:34 am to
quote:

Biden then carter because all this BS is being done on purpose


Carter was incompetent and was just overtaken by events in many ways.

Biden is purposefully trying to ruin this country to stay in power because the only base he has is hard-core leftist who hate the country.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63650 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 8:41 am to
The only people saying either Carter or Biden are “worst are very conservative Republicans who will never approve of a Democrat’s presidency. Carter and Biden both inherited a very difficult set of circumstances.
LBJ, hypocrite or not, did push through the Civil Rights Act. It was essential, and it’s time had come.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8778 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 8:57 am to
quote:

His son was not a good president, but he wasn’t anywhere close to the same America destroying categories as Obama, Biden


Both Obama and Biden inherited serious disasters from their predecessors. Obama with the financial crisis and Iraq/Afghanistan from W. And Biden with the pandemic from Trump.

I would say W and Carter were the worst modern presidents
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72631 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 8:58 am to
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Delusional.
quote:

Russia would agree




You Clinton Bros are hilarious.
Posted by bizeagle
Member since May 2020
1168 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:07 am to
Rank them in terms of damage to the USA:
#1 Biden - and he isn't even finished yet
#2 LBJ - escalated Vietnam, Great Society programs, Court appointments
#3 Obama - Healthcare system, deficit spending, broken ally relationships
#4 Carter - Never saw leftist idea he didn't like. Poor judgement, tax rates, court appointments

They all have the similar fatal character flaws that manifest in different ways: extreme arrogance/ conceit/ lack of humility/ over confident
Biden: is a career BS artist, pathologically dishonest, amoral, sociopath, lacks true empathy for anyone

LBJ: intelligent, dishonest, thought he was the smartest guy in any room, won his Senate seat with a ballot stuffing scheme in Texas

Obama: Gifted speaker, persuasive, Marxist ideologue, thinks he is the smartest guy in any room

Carter: Not very smart, condescending, naive, over his head, but had good intentions, poor judge of character, never learned from his foolish mistakes, easily manipulated by the left. Got elected because nobody knew him, was an idiot governor of Georgia.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24963 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:18 am to
If you're talking about singular actions/inactions that altered world history and could've resulted very different in the long game, it's hard to ignore Truman at the end of WWII.

Our troops were on the ground in striking distance of the Reds when Berlin and Nazi Germany as a whole fell. Our troops were not only there, but ready to march east and finish off the beating heart of communism once and for all. My grandfather was there.

Truman pulled us out, declaring "the end" of WWII and proverbially kicking the communist can down the road feeling that Americans and troops were "weary from the war". Yes, Americans were tired. Yes, the troops were tired. But patriotic fervor was at a historical high, and everyone was willing to do their part to see it through to the end.

The above mindset no longer exists, and the flames of communism were allowed to spread worldwide unabated. The Cold War era and communist infiltration of America changed us to the core, to the point that we have outspoken pinkos leading "revolutionary" protests and riots from coast to coast in most states.

As far as worst president* ever? I was born during the Carter administration so I can only go by the history books on that one. But from what I know as fact, as far back as I can actually remember, there hasn't been a more inarguably Anti-American President* than Joseph Robinette Biden. Is that "worst"? In my opinion, absolutely. But the young pinkos have a different view. I think, however, that the average American is beginning to see how bad things are. Even in the 70s under Carter, our deficit did not exceed our net worth. Many presidents contributed to that being the case today, including Reagan and Trump, but NOT ONE of them has so recklessly spent and wasted tax money like Biden has. And it's not even close. We are literally bankrupt and still maxing out the credit cards making minimum payments.

We're on borrowed time.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96387 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:19 am to
The bit of slack I will cut Truman is that the US people had pretty much been done with the war by VE Day and we had struggles to push through to VJ Day.

I don’t see us pushing through Germany to Moscow and then hoping we don’t repeat all of Hitler’s mistakes from Barbarossa.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22127 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:23 am to
quote:

LBJ started “reparations” and we have reparating ever since.


He was also a known racist and extreme pervert. The OT would have loved him.
This post was edited on 5/6/24 at 9:40 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42756 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:49 am to
quote:

Both Obama and Biden inherited serious disasters from their predecessors. Obama with the financial crisis and Iraq/Afghanistan from W.


One can question W on the Iraq War but you have to conclude that he knew their supposed existence of nuclear weapons was not a real threat - either due to the supposition being false, or that they were not anything to worry about. I find both those assumptions to be outside the oath a POTUS takes to protect the USA - you MUST not 'assume' the threats are not credible.
The only thing that would stick would be to know that Bush was in on the deception about the nukes - and I doubt that is true.

And as for the 'economic collapse' at the end of his term, the blame for that rests strictly on the Democrat Congress - I'm not sure what W could have done about it that was constitutional.

quote:

And Biden with the pandemic from Trump.

To allege any responsibility for the pandemic onto Trump is the most illogical thing I have ever seen written.

Everything Biden says about the 'recovery' was all due to steps that Trump had already initiated, and that all democrats vehemently opposed.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36483 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:59 am to
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You Clinton Bros are hilarious.


Can you post a link/screenshot to where I said I like/support Bill?

TIA
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9622 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:04 am to
Obama because he set all of this up for the Covid response (Fed control of personal healthcare),gutting the defense industry like a fish, and the woke bullcrap.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72631 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:16 am to
LINK

You're welcome.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72631 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:19 am to
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To allege any responsibility for the pandemic onto Trump is the most illogical thing I have ever seen written.

Everything Biden says about the 'recovery' was all due to steps that Trump had already initiated, and that all democrats vehemently opposed.


Like CARES, Operation Warp Speed, 15 Days..., etc?

Pretending Trump didn't fall on his face is pathetic.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36483 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:29 am to
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DisplacedBuckeye


I haven’t interacted with you much but now I understand why people make fun of you. Don’t bother replying as I won’t entertain you anymore.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72631 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:34 am to
I'd be disappointed to learn that I was held in high regard by the majority of the people who post here.

Keep defending Clinton, and I'll call you what you are.
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