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re: Blue Oak neighbors trying to cancel them
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:06 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:06 am to Lester Earl
There are too many unknowns here to properly pass judgement, but on the surface it does appear to be one business outsmarting the other and doing so with some shady maneuvers. There's probably some blame to be passed around all three parties involved, and that's how business works.
Theresa at least is protesting BO due to what she perceives to be unfair maneuvering, and I can appreciate that. Fagget on the other hand is just being a whiney bitch due to not liking there being a popular restaurant in her pretentious liberal neighborhood
Theresa at least is protesting BO due to what she perceives to be unfair maneuvering, and I can appreciate that. Fagget on the other hand is just being a whiney bitch due to not liking there being a popular restaurant in her pretentious liberal neighborhood
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:07 am to Lester Earl
The people commenting have no idea how contracts and business deals work. Blue Oak had nothing to do with Parkviews agreement with the landlord.
Blaming the new incoming business for your incompetency and allowing others to run with the narrative is bullshite.
I just went through a similar thing after purchasing a business.
Blaming the new incoming business for your incompetency and allowing others to run with the narrative is bullshite.
I just went through a similar thing after purchasing a business.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:10 am to Lester Earl
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But when they did find out, it sounds like she heard what was about to happen from the blue oak guys verbally
yeah that is why I made the comment, because of the source.
Now if I am seeing it wrong and the BOB guys told her prior to them buying the property then ok.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:35 am to More beer please
It sounds like Parkway didn't do the homework on the verbal right of first refusal and it's come back to bite them.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:56 am to Lester Earl
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Blue Oak
BBQ sucks
parking sucks worse
skip buying BBQ and make your own in NOLA
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:02 am to Midget Death Squad
It all falls on the owner of the building in the end. But it seems like Parkview thought they had a neighborly relationship with BO and prob feels betrayed a little.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:25 pm to SammyTiger
Agreed, would be really cool if they could build a new development in the empty space behind Wrong Iron facing the Lafitte Greenway with restaurant space for somebody like Blue Oak, retail, and additional parking. But Torres owns the land and guess he sees it better fit to be used it a storage lot for IV Waste.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:39 pm to slinger1317
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I believe we can make enough noise to possibly make Blue Oak reconsider and sell to Mark and Kathy. We can let it be known that they can sell the Parkview to the people who should rightfully own it and stay open or they can keep Parkview and close shop for lack of business. I believe Parkview is worth such measures.
the problem with the social media mob mentality, something didn't go our way so we'll kick and scream to try and force someone to do something.
Rightfully own? Get out of here lady
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:43 pm to GentleJackJones
Sucks, but also the danger of a business leasing for decades in a location without a legal, recorded long-term lease.
In my work I sometimes deal with the ramifications of long-standing business losing their lease due to a property sale. Its never fun and no-one gets out unscathed. We tell people, doesn't matter how long you've been in a location, if you don't own the property tomorrow something could change and you could be out.
In my work I sometimes deal with the ramifications of long-standing business losing their lease due to a property sale. Its never fun and no-one gets out unscathed. We tell people, doesn't matter how long you've been in a location, if you don't own the property tomorrow something could change and you could be out.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:06 pm to Lester Earl
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blue oak offered to continuing renting to them with a 250% rent increase
Probably justified due to inflation.
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pay insurance on building + property tax (which they paid previously)
How is that different from a lease? Typically a building owner will wrap all of that into the monthly lease amount.
It's funny how parkview tavern owners are blaming blue oak for them having incredibly shitty business sense. Blue oak is successful, Parkview Tavern is not. Parkview was unwilling to match the offer from Blue Oak, therefore, Blue Oak wins. They aren't the bad guy.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:07 pm to t00f
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I don't understand the part that the owner did not immediately notify the renters the property is sold and here is your timeline to vacate the property. Something is not adding up.
That is called "1 side of the story" and likely fabricated to garner sympathy.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:11 pm to Lester Earl
My recent favorite take out lunch in New Orleans is Blue Oak, walking just a couple of blocks to City Park and finding a spot there. Bring paper towels.
Never heard of Parkview.
Never heard of Parkview.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:11 pm to Lester Earl
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According to lady running Parkview, blue oak offered to continuing renting to them with a 250% rent increase + pay insurance on building + property tax (which they paid previously)
Notice how they say “250% increase” but don’t give a dollar total? This makes me think Parkview had some sweetheart deal with the previous owner. What sounds worse: they increased my rent from $1000 to $2500 or they increased my rent by 250%?
Parkview also probably had no intention of buying the location because they were already getting a great deal.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:21 pm to BigBinBR
The owner of the property should’ve just had a budding war on the property. Already had two potential buyers
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:23 pm to BigBinBR
Exactly, Blue Oak probably raised rent to the fair market value, they aren't screwing over Parkview, they probably raised it where it's supposed to be and Parkview had some sweetheart deal where the rent was so cheap it was cheaper to rent it and hope it never went up versus buying the property outright.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:24 pm to GynoSandberg
I'm listening to it, and it sounds like the property owner didn't trust Parkview Tavern to have the funds to buy the property. It also sounds like Blue Oak is a much more stable business venture than PT.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:25 pm to Lester Earl
That’s a cool bar not happy to lose it.
I never thought Blue Oak was that good anyway so happy to continue not going.
I never thought Blue Oak was that good anyway so happy to continue not going.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:26 pm to BugAC
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BugAC
You’re doing an incredible amount of speculation
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:28 pm to BugAC
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That is called "1 side of the story" and likely fabricated to garner sympathy.
Possibly, but as mentioned earlier, if the property has already been purchased, why would Blue Oak wait to end the lease? Unless the lease renewal came before the property purchase. Again, not sure how tenancy laws work, but I imagine that the contract rolls into the new owners, who have the right to end it, but with repercussions.
I wouldn't be shocked if the Tavern owners were aware of who exactly purchased the property. It could've been very hush hush until recently, and then they brought this to light to garner said sympathy.
At the end of the day, this is a prime example of getting everything you need in writing.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:32 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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You’re doing an incredible amount of speculation
Is it illogical?
1) PT has had the lease for 30 years and has NEVER attempted to purchase it. She even admits on the podcast that every 10 years when the lease is up, she is offered to buy it. She's had at least 2 attempts to purchase and hasn't. Why?
2) Is it that much of a stretch to think a place that serves food and drink is less risky than a bar only place?
3) Majority of what i'm hearing on the podcast is her trying to paint Blue Oak as the bad guys because a) they didnt' tell her they were buying it. (Hint: they are in no obligation to) and B) they won't tell her what they are using the space for (again, none of her business).
If this owner wants to be pissed at someone, it should be directed at a) herself for not buying the land over the last 30 years then maybe b) the original owner. It isn't blue oak's fault that grabbed the opportunity to expand literally next door in an overcrowded city.
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