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MAJOR issues with relief pitchers.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:20 am
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:20 am
They can’t seem to hit their spots. They get behind in the count. They are wild and walk/hit too many batters. It’s so frustrating to see so many arms called in just to walk or hit a batter. I can’t remember a time when lsu was this bad with relief pitching.
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:21 am to mattchewbocca
Our pitching is just not very good. and it hasn't been for some time
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:28 am to mattchewbocca
I think Jay needs to stop filling the staff with a bunch of high ceiling guys that have to learn to pitch and start recruiting more Cowan like guys. Guys that may not throw 95 but can hit spots and have an out pitch. Sure you take some high ceiling guys but you need reliable college guys too.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:45 am to mattchewbocca
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I can’t remember a time when lsu was this bad with relief pitching.
That is because you have a short memory. Compare the conference-only stats to 2023.
2023:
SEC Team ERA: 6.17
SEC Team WHIP: 1.525
Number of pitchers with sub 5.00 SEC ERA: 3
2025:
SEC Team ERA: 4.41
SEC Team WHIP: 1.439
Number of pitchers with sub 5.00 SEC ERA: 7
It should be noted that Kade Anderson’s SEC ERA is 5.05 - he is not included in the 7 noted above.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:51 am to mattchewbocca
4 maybe 5 quality SEC arms. The rest are complete shite. A new paradym concerning pitching needs to take place. Nate Yeskie was a horrible f'ing mistake, and will be the downfall of this season.
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 10:52 am
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:52 am to mattchewbocca
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They can’t seem to hit their spots. They get behind in the count. They are wild and walk/hit too many batters.
You just now realizing this?
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:53 am to mattchewbocca
Our pets heads are falling off!!!
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:10 pm to Tiger Ryno
Ben McDonald said the average or typical college pitcher misses his spot by 11 inches. WOW. If true why set up inside our outside. I think the miss percentage seems high but is likely what our pitching staff capabilities are.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:13 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
quote:riley cooper another example
Cowan
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:20 pm to mattchewbocca
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They can’t seem to hit their spots.
Would be happy with just throwing strikes.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:29 pm to mattchewbocca
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They can’t seem to hit their spots. They get behind in the count. They are wild and walk/hit too many batters. It’s so frustrating to see so many arms called in just to walk or hit a batter. I can’t remember a time when lsu was this bad with relief pitching.
Other than Cowan and Evans the relievers are below average. Some won't be here next year and rightfully so. Need to hit the portal big time in the relief pitching dept
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:31 pm to Bedtiger
quote:typical MLB pitcher
Ben McDonald said the average or typical college pitcher misses his spot by 11 inches
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:37 pm to OchoDedos
quote:I mean we are 4th in the conference in ERA
4 maybe 5 quality SEC arms.
Perhaps SEC arms just aren't what you think they are this year
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:46 pm to Double Oh
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Other than Cowan and Evans the relievers are below average.
I think some people don't know what an average college reliever looks like.
Probably 10 teams in the SEC would love to have our bullpen. Warts and all.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:52 pm to mattchewbocca
We scored 3 runs against Northwestern St rag arms. I guess the pitching was supposed to hold their offense to 2 or less.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 2:22 pm to mattchewbocca
No doubt
Posted on 4/23/25 at 2:28 pm to Dead Mike
It's good to know the SEC-only pitching stats are better right now than they were in 2023.
The bad news is this staff has Tennessee, A&M and Arkansas coming up, which could change those numbers pretty quickly if they don't get something figured out.
The bad news is this staff has Tennessee, A&M and Arkansas coming up, which could change those numbers pretty quickly if they don't get something figured out.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 2:51 pm to mattchewbocca
you have the top tier
Cowan and Evans
You have the second tier
Ware, Rizy who have both been pretty good in SEC play than people realize
Then you have Noot and Williams who have started to get situational play and have been overall pretty decent
Then we have the real issue
Schmidt and Benge just aren’t giving us quality outings.
It’s really bad with Benge because he has pitched 6 times and given us 1 clean inning.
Schmidt’s issue is he will be cruising and then completely go noodle arm, get pulled after a couple walks and then the next guy (usually benge) gives up a bunch of runs.
Cowan and Evans
You have the second tier
Ware, Rizy who have both been pretty good in SEC play than people realize
Then you have Noot and Williams who have started to get situational play and have been overall pretty decent
Then we have the real issue
Schmidt and Benge just aren’t giving us quality outings.
It’s really bad with Benge because he has pitched 6 times and given us 1 clean inning.
Schmidt’s issue is he will be cruising and then completely go noodle arm, get pulled after a couple walks and then the next guy (usually benge) gives up a bunch of runs.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 2:52 pm to BillF
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It's good to know the SEC-only pitching stats are better right now than they were in 2023. The bad news is this staff has Tennessee, A&M and Arkansas coming up, which could change those numbers pretty quickly if they don't get something figured out.
While this is true, the conference-only win percentage of our SEC opponents so far (46.30%) is pretty close to the conference-only win percentage of all our SEC opponents for 2023 (47.16%).
So it could just be that our regular season schedule is tougher than it was the last time that we won a championship. Maybe we should all have that possibility in mind if we start to struggle in the next few weekend series.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 2:58 pm to mattchewbocca
The game has gotten out of control over obsession with velocity. More influence and effort needs to be placed on mechanics and location/control than anything.
Cowan can wreck shite with a decent fastball and a plus chamgeup.
Guys like Rizy and Mavers have all the velo capability in the world but I watched them get up 0-2 in the count and then throw 4 pitches not even close to the strike zone. Hell Mavers threw one completely over the catcher. That’s quite a feat to miss that badly.
Yeskie has to find a way to get these guys to get their shite together. At one point I thought our staff was the deepest in the nation. Right now, we have maybe 5 reliable arms
Cowan can wreck shite with a decent fastball and a plus chamgeup.
Guys like Rizy and Mavers have all the velo capability in the world but I watched them get up 0-2 in the count and then throw 4 pitches not even close to the strike zone. Hell Mavers threw one completely over the catcher. That’s quite a feat to miss that badly.
Yeskie has to find a way to get these guys to get their shite together. At one point I thought our staff was the deepest in the nation. Right now, we have maybe 5 reliable arms
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 2:59 pm
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