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Why is Haleigh Bryant not on the U.S. Olympic team?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 6:55 am
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:04 am to Jeff Goldblum
She didn't train as an elite gymnast. I don't know what that means, but that's what has been said. I know there are different levels of gymnasts, but I don't really understand all of that.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:06 am to Jeff Goldblum
Because she does college level gymnastics, not Olympic level gymnastics. I'm not saying she couldn't, but she hasn't trained to do so.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:07 am to Jeff Goldblum
She is the best collegiate gymnast in the U.S. The Olympics is on a different level and most of the female competitors are very young.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:09 am to chimesstreet
The difference between college gymnastics and Olympic is the difference between AA baseball and the Major Leagues.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:13 am to Jeff Goldblum
Olympic training is grueling. She has the skills to perform at that level but would need to prepare for longer routines with more difficult elements. It’s difficult to do while attending college full time.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:16 am to Jeff Goldblum
Probably because the team has not been selected yet.
I am not saying she will make it but the trials are in late June.
All-around winners in men's and women's automatically qualify, a committee selects the rest.
Her competition will include multiple former World or Olympic competitors and winners.
I am not saying she will make it but the trials are in late June.
All-around winners in men's and women's automatically qualify, a committee selects the rest.
Her competition will include multiple former World or Olympic competitors and winners.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:25 am to Jeff Goldblum
Elite female gymnasts typically peak between 16 & 19 years old. Think Auburn’s Suni Lee. She won an Olympic gold medal as a high schooler.
Elite Olympic gymnasts train over 30 hours a week, which is far more than collegiate gymnasts who can only train 20 hours a week.
Olympic gymnastics is considerably more difficult. The routines require far more difficulty than collegiate routines which put more premium on easier more precise routines.
Elite Olympic gymnasts train over 30 hours a week, which is far more than collegiate gymnasts who can only train 20 hours a week.
Olympic gymnastics is considerably more difficult. The routines require far more difficulty than collegiate routines which put more premium on easier more precise routines.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 7:27 am
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:40 am to Tammany Tom
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Elite Olympic gymnasts train over 30 hours a week
Kids in gymnastics during middle and high school train more than that.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:52 am to chimesstreet
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Because she does college level gymnastics, not Olympic level gymnastics. I'm not saying she couldn't, but she hasn't trained to do so.
From what I understand, college gymnastics rewards perfection over difficulty slightly, while Olympics award difficulty over perfection slightly.
It’s a different ball game in what the girls are asked to do.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:37 am to Oilfieldbiology
Maybe she is just not interested in Olympic Gymnastics perhaps she just would like to lead a normal competitive collage life style. I know for a fact she is a fantastic student, who cares about starving yourself to maintain 90 pounds, college life is fantastic.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:47 am to Mr Cell Phone
There are required meets that you have to participate in and score in order to even get to participate in the US Olympic trials. Only one of the LSU gymnasts (I don't remember who) has done the qualifying meets to go to the Olympic trials. I know it is not Haleigh. The reason why Alieah is competing for the Philippines is because it is easier to make their team (Think Mondo Duplantis).
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:48 am to Jeff Goldblum
Haleigh Bryant only trained to level 10. She’s never been an elite and she won’t start now, as those skills take years and lots of practice to learn. Not saying she couldn’t but typically gymnasts go elite at a much younger age and not after their college career.
Konnor McClain on the other hand comes from elite and has said she will try for the Olympics. She a former US All Arohnd champion.
Konnor McClain on the other hand comes from elite and has said she will try for the Olympics. She a former US All Arohnd champion.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:51 am to Tammany Tom
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Olympic gymnastics is considerably more difficult. The routines require far more difficulty than collegiate routines which put more premium on easier more precise routines.
The routines seem much longer in olympic competition as well. The beam routines for example at a college meet are very short with only 2 difficult maneuvers on average.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:01 am to Jeff Goldblum
Because she's not 15 years old?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:59 am to thetruthisnotkind
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Kids in gymnastics during middle and high school train more than that.
From an article in the Hollywood Reporter several years ago.
The Olympic gymnasts have an extensive training schedule. Simone Biles, 19, a three-time world champion who automatically earned a spot on the Olympic dream team as the first-ranked gymnast, shared a little bit of what training is like. Biles trains 32 hours a week in her gym in her home state of Texas.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 11:01 am
Posted on 4/22/24 at 11:16 am to LSUSkip
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She didn't train as an elite gymnast. I don't know what that means, but that's what has been said. I know there are different levels of gymnasts, but I don't really understand all of that.
It's behind a paywall on The Athletic, but there was a recent article on Jade
Carey that touches on it and explains the challenges of doing both.
She was the gold medalist on floor at the last Olympics, and currently competes at Oregon State. She decided to compete for her college team AND train for the Olympic trials while most girls do one or the other. Sunni Lee and another girl from UCLA were on the last Olympic team and took the year off from college to exclusively train for the upcoming trials.
My very basic understanding is that the 10 point scale used in NCAA doesn't reward the most challenging skills so there's no point in doing them at an NCAA competition. All risk, no reward. You can get a 10 without doing them. In the Olympics, you obviously have to do the harder stuff. She's essentially having to do two completely separate training regimens in order to compete in both.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 12:45 pm to DrSteveBrule
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The routines seem much longer in olympic competition as well. The beam routines for example at a college meet are very short with only 2 difficult maneuvers on average.
Olympic routines are structured the way they are to get the highest start value possible as are NCAA routines. They each have basic requirements, but in NCAA, you meet the requirements and you have a 10 start value and are judged accordingly. If you do a routine that's watered down too much even if it meets requirements, you might get a deduction for not up to the level of competition.
Olympic routines are built with the requirements, but structured to add as much difficulty as the gymnast can do clealy to get an increased start value. That's why you see a 14.1 score or a 13.25.
Therefore, it's totally different routines you are training. Haleigh would need to take a leave from school to train for the Olympics with coaches that know the Olympic code and are focused on that. They need to participate in camps where they are invited to train and from that bunch are selected to compete in international events.
Because of all these things, she would need to want Olympics above all else and should have already taken a leave from LSU. She would have needed to train last fall and compete in the camps already, like Trinity and Suni did. Suni however, may be unable to compete and train due to the kidney disease she has.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 4/22/24 at 3:05 pm to bearhc
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She is the best collegiate gymnast in the U.S. The Olympics is on a different level and most of the female competitors are very young.
So with that logic explain then how Leanne Wong is a likely USA Olympian…
Bryant is way better than Wong.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 3:41 pm to GetmorewithLes
It’s not about who’s better. It’s about training and skills.
Haleigh doesn’t train Olympic level routines and skills, never has.
Wong does train Olympic level routines and skills in addition to her NCAA routines/skills.
It’s not uncommon for elite (Olympic level athletes) to compete in the NCAA. It is uncommon for an NCAA athlete to all of a sudden decide to go elite- assuming they’ve never competed elite which is what Haleigh would be doing.
Haleigh doesn’t train Olympic level routines and skills, never has.
Wong does train Olympic level routines and skills in addition to her NCAA routines/skills.
It’s not uncommon for elite (Olympic level athletes) to compete in the NCAA. It is uncommon for an NCAA athlete to all of a sudden decide to go elite- assuming they’ve never competed elite which is what Haleigh would be doing.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 3:42 pm
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