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Should a team’s worst hitter bat 9th?

Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:24 am
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:24 am
This guys says they should bat 7th.


What do the MSB experts say?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:27 am to
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This guys says they should bat 7th.


This was a thing no less than like 15-20 years ago
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:27 am to
i've always told brayden, if you're batting past 6th, you might as well be the one about to turn the order over. You never want the shite heads behind you.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:30 am to
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What do the MSB experts say?
data analytics nerds were the once always getting the business end of Smear The Queer growing up.

They need to go play Roblox and leave sports to us red-blooded MAGA Baws
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:31 am to
Remember pitchers batting 8th? good times
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:33 am to
I think there is room for azn quant gurus in some instances.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:34 am to
What's the thought process with 7th?

9th hole gets fewest PAs per game. Theres an art to putting together a lineup, but you can also run the danger of overthinking things.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:38 am to
Where the "worst hitter" should be placed in the lineup greatly depends on strategy and the ability of the other 8 players in the lineup
Posted by mdomingue
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:41 am to
If you have a really good hitter who does not have any power, then I would think he needs to bat 1, 2 or 9.

My reasoning is this: you want guys on base for your power guys, you want your power guys batting 3-5 ideally. With 6 as a marginal power guy, then 2 if you have another. So after the first time through the lineup, you #9 hitter may be in position in any given inning to get on base for your power hitters.

A guy who is on base with mostly singles and walks and who gets doubles and the occasional triple as his better hits should be 1 or 9 if you have a lot of power in the lineup, and 1, 2, or 9 if you have less power.
Posted by Lexis Dad
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:48 am to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:54 am to
probably far enough away from batting behind and in front of your best hitters.

if you’re best hitters are 1-3. 7 is 3 spots in front of your 1 and 4 spots behind your 3.

thinking of a lineup as a loop vs a list I guess you want your best hitters on one side of the circle
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 12:00 pm
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:57 am to
Coach used to always bat me last. I'd like to think it was because I wasn't the worst hitter.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:00 pm to
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The worst hitter on every team should be batting 7th—not 9th. I just want more teams to understand this.
so with the game on the line, do you want the 7th best batter up or the 9th best batter up?

Bottom of the 9th, runner in scoring position...your No. 7 guy is up...do you want him to be your worst hitter or your 7th best hitter?

I would think you want you best hitters batting more than your worst...
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 12:04 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:05 pm to
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data analytics nerds were the once always getting the business end of Smear The Queer growing up.

They need to go play Roblox and leave sports to us red-blooded MAGA Baws


na...the nerds have made it to where the game is played at a higher level than ever before. We throw harder, hit harder, run faster etc than ever before


but analytics and looking at stats should absolutely be used in setting the lineup. And understand this is based off MLB as a whole, one should look at their specific team and the stats that the other team has against them when making a decision.

statistically the position in the lineup who comes up with 2 outs and no runner on the most is the 3 hole hitter. So not sure why he has that down as such an important position. But thats why its important to look at those things for your team specifically. I do think trends as a league are good, but trends as a team are better and merging those trends with the data about the team you are facing makes it even better.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:19 pm to
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Bottom of the 9th, runner in scoring position...your No. 7 guy is up...do you want him to be your worst hitter or your 7th best hitter?
pinch hitter probably
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:20 pm to
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pinch hitter probably
what if your number 7 batter is important in the field?

also, my scenario could come up any inning...
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 12:22 pm
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:22 pm to
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What's the thought process with 7th?


If 4,5,and 6 can get something going, you can always PH for 7. But that would apply to 7,8 and 9. So I got nothing

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:27 pm to
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so with the game on the line, do you want the 7th best batter up or the 9th best batter up?

Bottom of the 9th, runner in scoring position...your No. 7 guy is up...do you want him to be your worst hitter or your 7th best hitter?

I would think you want you best hitters batting more than your worst...


i can ask you something similar...if the trend on your team is for the 7th hitter to be up with 2 outs and nobody on more than anyone else....why you want one of your better hitters hitting in that position in a scenario where you are least likely to score runs?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:31 pm to
well that’s why you pay for a good manager LOL. Every decision is a risk including the starting lineup
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
24299 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:32 pm to
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if the trend on your team is for the 7th hitter to be up with 2 outs and nobody on more than anyone else
can you show me the data?
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