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re: SI: Why Does MLB Still Allow Synchronized, Team-Sanctioned Racism in Atlanta?

Posted on 10/28/21 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
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Posted on 10/28/21 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/29/21 at 6:27 am to
Weren't the Braves originally in Boston?
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8296 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 6:59 am to
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I get why "Redskins" is racist



Then you’re a pussy too


Holy frickin shite this country is soft as frick…
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/29/21 at 8:33 am to
I think she's just mad because of the choppers she's got and the Braves just keep reminding her of them.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 10/29/21 at 8:41 am to
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Weren't the Braves originally in Boston?


Yes. The original Boston franchise.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36660 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 8:42 am to
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Weren't the Braves originally in Boston?


Boston, noted not racist town.
Posted by TheBoomerEntomber
Member since Jul 2021
119 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:03 am to
It's time to dismantle and destroy the media and the people who write their propaganda.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:51 am to
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I think she's just mad because of the choppers she's got and the Braves just keep reminding her of them.

LMAO
So true
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36660 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:54 am to
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We know this because we've seen it. For decades, the Braves employed an American Indian mascot named Chief Noc-A-Homa. He wore a headdress and danced on the pitcher's mound and huddled in a teepee and celebrated home runs with smoke signals and breathed fire. In 1985, he also missed three events for the team and admitted to hitting on multiple women on the job. Rather than recast the role after the employee was fired, the Braves retired the character.

More than 35 years ago, the Atlanta Braves recognized something was wrong and remedied it. The refusal to do so now registers oddly, like a cocktail of hubris and cowardice. In 1985, the team was willing to guide fans to the right place. Now it isn't, and MLB apparently refuses to mandate it.

It's an inevitability the chop goes away, just like it will go away at Kansas City Chiefs games, just like it will go away, eventually and probably last, at the place it started, Florida State University, where the Seminole tribe offers its blessing for chopping at Doak Campbell Stadium.

Until that happens, teams will peddle the same vacuous arguments the Washington Football Team did before it dropped its former name, and fans will treat their right to participate in a chant or use a nickname as if it's something important while turning a blind eye to the actual problems in indigenous communities, where poverty and violence against women and poor education leave Native Americans terminally vulnerable.

The most frustrating thing about the chop is how easy it would be to stop. It would be a small gesture. It wouldn't fix any of those generational problems that affect American Indians. But it would, to plenty, return at least a modicum of dignity to a people that have already had so much taken from them.

When that eventually happens, we know the journey that Braves fans will undertake, because we've seen it before. First, denial and anger. They'll bargain, they'll feel depressed and eventually they'll accept it, because fans don't go to games just to chop. They go to watch the team they love, chop or no chop, and anyone who loves chopping more than Ronald Acuña Jr., Freddie Freeman and Ozzie Albies clearly has bad taste anyway.

It's what made Manfred's tack on Tuesday so stunning. He's had 30 years to figure out the right thing to say about the chop, and his central theses were: Teams make their own choices (even though they actually don't) and American Indians in the region are fully backing the chop (even though they certainly haven't).

"The Native American community in that region is wholly supportive of the Braves' program, including the chop," Manfred said. "For me, that's kind of the end of the story."

Wholly supportive. Sounds about as convincing as unwaveringly supportive.

At least Manfred was telling the truth about one thing. The end of the story is coming. That noise you hear this week emanating from Truist Park will sound like the tomahawk chop, but in reality it will mark the beginning of its death rattle. The chop is not long for Atlanta, and, with any luck, not long for the sporting world.

Come on, guys. It's 2021. Let's move on. Find something else.


passon had to get his article in LINK
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70381 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 12:05 pm to
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Come on, guys. It's 2021. Let's move on. Find something else.


Physician, heal thyself.
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
8767 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 12:58 pm to
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Lol. No they didn't. Or did you not see how that ticket "overcame" an insurmountable deficit while most of America was asleep? If you knew anything about Georgia, as a whole, you'd know that it isn't possible they voted for those two.




THEY ALSO GOT WATER THAT TURNS THE FROGS GAY!
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29101 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:08 pm to
I just knew she was going to be a white Jew.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 2:30 pm to
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THEY ALSO GOT WATER THAT TURNS THE FROGS GAY

What?
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52814 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 2:35 pm to
Here’s an editorial from the super liberal WSJ editorial page on Trump’s continued baseless claims on the election, though this won’t change any of the minds here. He invents unprovable claims, asks people to debunk them, and his followers eat it up. These people live in their own reality and are too far gone to reason with.

LINK
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
8767 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 3:02 pm to
You can't speak to these people like that.

They won't hear you and they absolutely do not care.

Trump 2024.
Posted by Hoodie
Donaldsonville, LA
Member since Dec 2019
2998 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 4:05 pm to
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“It’s like if someone denigrated Christianity or 9/11 jumpers,” says Brett Chapman, a Native American rights attorney and enrolled member of the Pawnee Nation who is a vocal opponent of Native American mascots. He imagines 50,000 people in a stadium dressed as Jesus Christ or screaming gibberish in mockery of the national anthem. He imagines the reaction that would get.


This kind of shite happens all the time in entertainment, in the media, and even by some members of Congress, and it's celebrated by the Left. They can frick off.
This post was edited on 10/29/21 at 4:06 pm
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