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Shadeur
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:07 am
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:07 am
The issue with Shadeur is the attitude.
He has talent to play QB in the NFL but he needs work. Most recognize this. Shadeur however has not shown the ability to recognize his own need for improvement.
Several scouts have pointed out that during interviews, he seemed to be more sure of his readiness to play than coaches and scouts think. Arrogance is a word that’s been used. Entitled is another.
So it seems clear to me that it’s not a matter of talent but willingness to learn. If he were more humble then perhaps he’s worth a shot in the top 20. Perhaps he can be molded.
The other strike on him is Deion. Any criticism for Shadeur gets dramatized by Deion. He’s active on Twitter and the media and isn’t afraid to go after reporters or others who he disagrees.
Bottom line- the juice ain’t worth the squeeze
He has talent to play QB in the NFL but he needs work. Most recognize this. Shadeur however has not shown the ability to recognize his own need for improvement.
Several scouts have pointed out that during interviews, he seemed to be more sure of his readiness to play than coaches and scouts think. Arrogance is a word that’s been used. Entitled is another.
So it seems clear to me that it’s not a matter of talent but willingness to learn. If he were more humble then perhaps he’s worth a shot in the top 20. Perhaps he can be molded.
The other strike on him is Deion. Any criticism for Shadeur gets dramatized by Deion. He’s active on Twitter and the media and isn’t afraid to go after reporters or others who he disagrees.
Bottom line- the juice ain’t worth the squeeze
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:09 am to SlidellCajun
How much is the Sanders PR team paying Mel Kiper to blow Shadeur?
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:09 am to SlidellCajun
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Several scouts have pointed out that during interviews, he seemed to be more sure of his readiness to play than coaches and scouts think.
I get it. But I also really wouldn’t want a guy who was like nah it’s going to be awhile before I’m ready to be an nfl qb.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:18 am to SlidellCajun
So you want a guy who says, " nah, I may need a year or two before I'm ready to make a difference, think of me as a mid term project that will pay off long term"
Yeah he's brash, his Dad was and is brash, but Deion backed it up and Shedeur along with Hunter backed up the hype. Without them, Colorado was a 2-3 win team.
Sanders has a better than 70% career completion percentage. 134 TDs in college with only 27 ints. His arm strength is not the problem, nor are his skills. The fear of Deion may be, which is laughable....moreso now.
Yeah he's brash, his Dad was and is brash, but Deion backed it up and Shedeur along with Hunter backed up the hype. Without them, Colorado was a 2-3 win team.
Sanders has a better than 70% career completion percentage. 134 TDs in college with only 27 ints. His arm strength is not the problem, nor are his skills. The fear of Deion may be, which is laughable....moreso now.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:20 am to SlidellCajun
I’ve convinced myself were taking the coaches son. And im ok with this.
We won’t draft a qb before round 6 don’t be surprised if at all.
We won’t draft a qb before round 6 don’t be surprised if at all.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:25 am to KiwiHead
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anders has a better than 70% career completion percentage. 134 TDs in college with only 27 ints.
Look at the competition though. He better have good stats. Colorado's biggest competition was Nebraska or Kansas State last year.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:47 am to St Augustine
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get it. But I also really wouldn’t want a guy who was like nah it’s going to be awhile before I’m ready to be an nfl qb.
Of course not but that’s not what anyone would want with a top 20 qb pick.
There’s a middle ground afterall.
At pick 9, What people want is a guy that has upside and realizes his weakness’ and is willing to do the work to improve. Someone who is ready to go will most likely get picked top 5.
Coaches want to coach. They want to teach. When it comes to Rookies they especially expect to see some degree of humility- especially at QB.
Sanders lacks that self awareness. He needs some humility and the draft is showing him that.
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 11:54 am
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:48 am to SlidellCajun
He's a walking circus
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:53 am to Marrero
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We won’t draft a qb before round 6 don’t be surprised if at all
You really went out on a limb here huh?
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:55 am to GumboPot
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How much is the Sanders PR team paying Mel Kiper to blow Shadeur?
A metric shite ton.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:57 am to SlidellCajun
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Shadont
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:08 am to SlidellCajun
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:40 am to SlidellCajun
quote:
The issue with Shadeur is the attitude.
He has talent to play QB in the NFL but he needs work. Most recognize this. Shadeur however has not shown the ability to recognize his own need for improvement.
Several scouts have pointed out that during interviews, he seemed to be more sure of his readiness to play than coaches and scouts think. Arrogance is a word that’s been used. Entitled is another.
So it seems clear to me that it’s not a matter of talent but willingness to learn. If he were more humble then perhaps he’s worth a shot in the top 20. Perhaps he can be molded.
The other strike on him is Deion. Any criticism for Shadeur gets dramatized by Deion. He’s active on Twitter and the media and isn’t afraid to go after reporters or others who he disagrees.
Bottom line- the juice ain’t worth the squeeze
So, he's toxic.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:53 am to KiwiHead
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his Dad was and is brash, but Deion backed it up
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:15 am to GumboPot
So against Nebraska he was about 60% in the completion department with 244 yards and 1/1
Against K State he threw for 388 yards and was 34/40 or 85% and 3 TDs in a back and forth game.
Your attempt to minimize in this instance really does not hold out in his losses he averaged a 72% completion rate. With an average of 316 yards a game with a 2/1 TD/ Int ratio in losing causes.
Shedeur's play was not the reason for those loses. In the K state game Colorado's leading rusher had 11 yards
So either he sucks by some heretofore unknown metric, or there's a lot of b.s.. It could also be that Loomis needs to bargain shop and paying a 1 st round LT while not cheap is a lot less expensive than a QB.
With Sanders you have an accurate QB who has legit measureables just as comparable to Ward in a league that was comparable.
Against K State he threw for 388 yards and was 34/40 or 85% and 3 TDs in a back and forth game.
Your attempt to minimize in this instance really does not hold out in his losses he averaged a 72% completion rate. With an average of 316 yards a game with a 2/1 TD/ Int ratio in losing causes.
Shedeur's play was not the reason for those loses. In the K state game Colorado's leading rusher had 11 yards
So either he sucks by some heretofore unknown metric, or there's a lot of b.s.. It could also be that Loomis needs to bargain shop and paying a 1 st round LT while not cheap is a lot less expensive than a QB.
With Sanders you have an accurate QB who has legit measureables just as comparable to Ward in a league that was comparable.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:26 am to KiwiHead
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With Sanders you have an accurate QB who has legit measureables just as comparable to Ward in a league that was comparable.
Ward is more mobile & has a stronger arm but I agree with everything else you said.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:38 am to SlidellCajun
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Of course not but that’s not what anyone would want with a top 20 qb pick. There’s a middle ground afterall. At pick 9, What people want is a guy that has upside and realizes his weakness’ and is willing to do the work to improve. Someone who is ready to go will most likely get picked top 5.
I’d have zero problem taking him at pick 40 if he falls. At that point, I think the talent/potential is worth the possible downside. And as you say, the draft fall might humble him.
Personally , I suspect that some team will trade up to get him before then.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:39 am to KiwiHead
Maybe it's who he is that makes him suck.
Cam Newton, Jamarcus Russell, Ryan leaf etc could all play...but those guys fricking suck.
Cam Newton, Jamarcus Russell, Ryan leaf etc could all play...but those guys fricking suck.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:40 am to BigBrod81
I would argue that Shedeur was coached to not be as mobile so as to minimize injury. But if you watch tape, he scrambles with the ball to buy time so as to get his receivers open. He's far from being a statue. I keep wondering where this narrative a lesser arm strength is coming from. He gets the ball far down the field and objectively it has zip. He had a lot of long balls to Horn and O. Miller not to mention Hunter, but Hunter was a prolific serial killer in the mid range department.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:43 am to SlidellCajun
He doesn’t have the talent. He was serviceable in a ridiculously weak conference.
That doesn’t bode well for his future.
That doesn’t bode well for his future.
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