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Anyone know when a “gunshot wound” wasn’t decidedly fatal?
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:04 am
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:04 am
Like, when did they (the first medical people) figure out that a bullet NEEDED to come out before sealing the wound?
I was thinking as I’m watching Black Flags that there’s never a bullet removed. I figured that by this era they’d have figured out at least “STEP 1: Get bullet out” and then survival rate at least went up so then that became a thing… and so on.
Couldn’t really find a hard date/timeframe when it was suspected to have been figured out by the people.
I was thinking as I’m watching Black Flags that there’s never a bullet removed. I figured that by this era they’d have figured out at least “STEP 1: Get bullet out” and then survival rate at least went up so then that became a thing… and so on.
Couldn’t really find a hard date/timeframe when it was suspected to have been figured out by the people.
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:11 am to yankeeundercover
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I was thinking as I’m watching Black Flags that there’s never a bullet removed. I figured that by this era they’d have figured out at least “STEP 1: Get bullet out” and then survival rate at least went up so then that became a thing… and so on.
I mean, we were using leeches to "suck the bad blood out" not THAT long ago in the grand scheme of things.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:12 am to yankeeundercover
A woman figured it out I’m sure.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:34 am to yankeeundercover
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:40 am to yankeeundercover
First of all, they don't always remove the bullet even today. My buddy is walking around with one inside him. They make a determination if removing it would cause more harm than leaving it in. Generally based on its location.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:40 am to TDsngumbo
I guess I never really thought about “aftercare” beyond the removal and the closure…
Wow, am I dense…. I guess the only experience I have personally is “contemporary” and that things like antibiotics and anything resembling tools that could get into a wound without SO MUCH irreparable damage that it would have been foolish to try… so the question I’m trying to resolve is answered simply “NOT NEARLY AS LONG AGO AS I EVER IMAGINED”
So in the late-19th century vs my thinking was pretty close to the invention of the bullet… haha
Wow, am I dense…. I guess the only experience I have personally is “contemporary” and that things like antibiotics and anything resembling tools that could get into a wound without SO MUCH irreparable damage that it would have been foolish to try… so the question I’m trying to resolve is answered simply “NOT NEARLY AS LONG AGO AS I EVER IMAGINED”
So in the late-19th century vs my thinking was pretty close to the invention of the bullet… haha
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:40 am to yankeeundercover
Talk to ER nurses
People come in regularly with a bullet in them and act like it’s just another day
People come in regularly with a bullet in them and act like it’s just another day
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:51 am to yankeeundercover
A wound to an extremity almost invariably meant amputation. A shot to the torso was probably fatal but not always. They might probe the would for the bullet but there was nothing they could do to repair the damage.
One of my ancestors suffered an abdominal wound in a civil war battle and it never properly healed. He became a lifelong morphine addict as a result. It came from New Orleans by riverboat and family lore tells how he would have "screaming fits" if the boat was late.
One of my ancestors suffered an abdominal wound in a civil war battle and it never properly healed. He became a lifelong morphine addict as a result. It came from New Orleans by riverboat and family lore tells how he would have "screaming fits" if the boat was late.
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 1:58 am
Posted on 4/23/24 at 5:47 am to yankeeundercover
John Hunter, one of the early members of the Royal College of Surgeons, had better results by not removing musket balls. Read the book, Knife Man.
Book: LINK
Many soldiers died of infection after a wound was explored.
Antiseptic techniques were not widely used until the late 1800s. Antibiotics, specifically penicillin, were not around until the 1930s.
Routine Safe transfusion I was developed between WWI and WWII
Book: LINK
Many soldiers died of infection after a wound was explored.
Antiseptic techniques were not widely used until the late 1800s. Antibiotics, specifically penicillin, were not around until the 1930s.
Routine Safe transfusion I was developed between WWI and WWII
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:26 am to yankeeundercover
All I know is, I’m glad I didn’t live in the eras where they were practically having to experiment on people in the field, until they figured out what worked and what didn’t.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:45 am to jizzle6609
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A woman figured it out I’m sure.
Your binary presumptions have triggered me into an armored safe space today. I guess it’s a white woman too huh?
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:46 am to makersmark1
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Antiseptic techniques were not widely used until the late 1800s.
This is so crazy to think about. My maternal grandfather was born in 1908 is rural MS. So basically could have been me!
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:48 am to yankeeundercover
A lot of times it's not the bullet but the little fragments of soiled clothing that poses the biggest infection risk.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:51 am to yankeeundercover
30 yrs ago I was shot in my leg. Drs did a great job of removing the bullet and I rehabbed pretty quick. It was a pellet gun though
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:52 am to yankeeundercover
We rarely remove Bullets in the Emergency Room.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:58 am to yankeeundercover
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“STEP 1: Get bullet out”
I know a couple people who have bullets still in them.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:58 am to yankeeundercover
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Anyone know when a “gunshot wound” wasn’t decidedly fatal?
The phrasing of your question speaks volumes about your level of expertise amongst the esteemed OT Mensa members
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:32 am to yankeeundercover
If you really think about it, hospitals and doctors are battling with ammo manufacturers to see who can be better at their job.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:35 am to Fat and Happy
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Talk to ER nurses People come in regularly with a bullet in them and act like it’s just another day
In a large state hospital (in a state with violent gun crimes) you will see a TON of people that have bullet fragments or shotgun pellets for decades.
Also a lot of minority young males with colostomy bags, recurrent small bowel obstructions, and/or lower body paralysis all from old gunshot wounds.
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 8:37 am
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:04 am to Lithium
quote:Since most bullets are made of lead or have lead in them, is there any risk of lead poisoning from it?
We rarely remove Bullets in the Emergency Room.
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