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Should Louisiana get rid of the no fault divorce?
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:56 pm
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In Louisiana, a no-fault divorce is one in which neither spouse assumes blame for the failure of the marriage. They are typically easier and cheaper to execute than fault-based divorces, where it must be proven that one spouse is responsible for the dissolution of their marriage.
Fault-based divorces are more likely to result in a lopsided allocation of spousal support, division of assets and access to children. They are granted when a spouse is convicted of a major crime, committed adultery or abusive.
By contrast, Louisiana couples seeking a no-fault divorce must only prove they have lived separately for six months if they have no underage children and for a year if they have minor children. No responsibility for the dissolution needs to be found.
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Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:57 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Why?
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:58 pm to JohnnyKilroy
I honestly don’t concern myself with the types of divorce Louisiana has written into law.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:58 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:anecdotal experience- even when these things happen judges in LA still just want to grant a no fault.
They are granted when a spouse is convicted of a major crime, committed adultery or abusive.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:00 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Government shouldn’t have any business in marriage regardless.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:00 pm to madamsquirrel
quote:
anecdotal experience- even when these things happen judges in LA still just want to grant a no fault.
Yep
Buddys wife cheated on him
Judge still did no fault and she got half the shite
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:01 pm to JohnnyKilroy
It doesn’t really matter because the dudes getting fricked no matter what.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:03 pm to madamsquirrel
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anecdotal experience- even when these things happen judges in LA still just want to grant a no fault.
Yep. Same as here in Kentucky (we’re also no fault).
Have a friend from grade school whose ex-husband molested their daughter. They still treated it like no fault and he purposefully drew it out as long as possible. Now he’s trying to avoid a conviction and saying she accused him of the molestation to get a divorce (which makes no sense given Kentucky is a no fault state).
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:06 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Screw that. So create a system that either forces people to be miserable or to lie in court about a fault reason
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:07 pm to JohnnyKilroy
it's important to start a discussion
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:10 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Louisiana should get out of the marriage/divorce business.
As all government should.
As all government should.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:11 pm to JohnnyKilroy
The only winners in divorce are the attorneys.
Back and forth, back and forth, back and forth --- they like creating FUD --- fear, uncertainty, and doubt. It makes for more billable hours.
Before anyone decides to explore divorce, ask yourself:
1. Is it them? Or is it me? If you try to say it's them, you are asking for bad results, i.e. divorce. If you start with yourself, you may have a chance.
2. Do I want my children to be around another adult once my spouse starts dating and/or remarries?
3. Have you looked at counseling? If they won't go, so be it, but have you looked at it for yourself?
4. What are you prepared to lose financially?
5. Are you prepared to lose your in-laws, and friends (especially if you "shared" friends), and deal with the shame and/or embarrassment of a failed marriage? This does exist.
6. Go from a full-time parent to a part-time parent due to custody arrangements? I don't care what anyone says --- yes, you will always be their parent, but seeing your children 50 % of the time as opposed to every day sucks. It's part-time parenting at best. Having a relationship by phone or text is not the same and will never replace the in-person relationship a parent/child has.
If you want to change the outcome of an equation, only 1 part is needed for change.
Personally, I think divorce is one of the most selfish things a person can do. Unless there is physical, verbal, or mental abuse --- or drug or sexual abuse --- or blatant disregard of your marriage vows (adultery), the two people that initially were agreeable to one another should be able to set aside their egos and hurt feelings, and truly listen to one another to attempt to work it out. If you think it's going to be easier with another person, you are mistaken. Everybody brings their own shite to a relationship and unless you fix your own shite, you will continue to be in a shite relationship.
YMMV.
Back and forth, back and forth, back and forth --- they like creating FUD --- fear, uncertainty, and doubt. It makes for more billable hours.
Before anyone decides to explore divorce, ask yourself:
1. Is it them? Or is it me? If you try to say it's them, you are asking for bad results, i.e. divorce. If you start with yourself, you may have a chance.
2. Do I want my children to be around another adult once my spouse starts dating and/or remarries?
3. Have you looked at counseling? If they won't go, so be it, but have you looked at it for yourself?
4. What are you prepared to lose financially?
5. Are you prepared to lose your in-laws, and friends (especially if you "shared" friends), and deal with the shame and/or embarrassment of a failed marriage? This does exist.
6. Go from a full-time parent to a part-time parent due to custody arrangements? I don't care what anyone says --- yes, you will always be their parent, but seeing your children 50 % of the time as opposed to every day sucks. It's part-time parenting at best. Having a relationship by phone or text is not the same and will never replace the in-person relationship a parent/child has.
If you want to change the outcome of an equation, only 1 part is needed for change.
Personally, I think divorce is one of the most selfish things a person can do. Unless there is physical, verbal, or mental abuse --- or drug or sexual abuse --- or blatant disregard of your marriage vows (adultery), the two people that initially were agreeable to one another should be able to set aside their egos and hurt feelings, and truly listen to one another to attempt to work it out. If you think it's going to be easier with another person, you are mistaken. Everybody brings their own shite to a relationship and unless you fix your own shite, you will continue to be in a shite relationship.
YMMV.
This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:13 pm to JohnnyKilroy
The GOP is going to fumble away its supermajority with stupid shite like this.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:17 pm to JohnnyKilroy
This already exists with covenant marriages
Oh, and:
Oh, and:
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One Republican attending Saturday’s meeting objected to the repeal of no-fault divorce, on the grounds she might still be in an unhappy marriage to a gay man if it hadn’t been an option.
This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:20 pm to Will Cover
I agree, there is no such thing as a soulmate.
For that reason, divorce is nothing more than a business agreement coming to an end.
For that reason, divorce is nothing more than a business agreement coming to an end.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:21 pm to fightin tigers
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For that reason, divorce is nothing more than a business agreement coming to an end.
Sadly, I believe you to be correct. One of the first things that any attorney will tell you -- and even a counselor (if they believe you are headed for divorce) is to treat all interactions like a business transaction and understand that you are being fired.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:25 pm to Will Cover
Sadly?
That's all a marriage is unless you being your diety into it.
And virtually no one explores having their diety divorce them. That's a hell of a process.
That's all a marriage is unless you being your diety into it.
And virtually no one explores having their diety divorce them. That's a hell of a process.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:27 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
Sadly?
Yes. I respect that we may look at things differently, but I viewed marriage as something sacred and vowed I would never get divorced. I truly believe(d) in "becoming one."
Perhaps I was naive as I sit here divorced.
I can see how why many people have soured on the whole marriage idea.
This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:28 pm to Cosmo
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Judge still did no fault and she got half the shite
In a community property state, each gets half regardless of fault.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:29 pm to Cosmo
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This post was edited on 5/7/23 at 9:59 pm
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