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re: The amount of development Africa experienced in the last 50 years is astounding

Posted on 5/30/26 at 1:41 am to
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11972 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 1:41 am to
Read the several books by Theroux that start with him as a young man working (?peace corps) in Africa and then coming back decades later trying to find how things he had built had been mindlessly abandoned.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20296 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 2:25 am to
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Addis Ababa and Lagos arent in Africa?


You queefs crack me up.

You think Africans did this?

Go look at the cities with the most Chinese influence lol.

Clown world. Now we have Americans white knighting Addis Ababa and Lagos as African proof of improvement lol

I mean stop looking at the pictures and read morons.
This post was edited on 5/30/26 at 2:27 am
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
4744 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 4:21 am to
Funny you don't mention how China is largely due to them developing so well.

"China has financed and built mamy major infrastructure projects in Botswana across the energy, technology, transport, and water sectors. These developments form part of a broader economic partnership that has deepened since Botswana formally joined the Belt and Road Initiative.Major Chinese-built infrastructure projects in Botswana include:Morupule B Power Station: Built by the China National Electric Engineering Corporation (CNEEC), this massive coal-fired power station provides the bulk of Botswana's domestic power generation, helping transform the nation into a regional electricity exporter.Digital Delta Data Center: Located in the Botswana Innovation Hub in Gaborone, this Tier III certified data center was delivered by China Jiangxi International Economic and Technical Cooperation (CJIC) to significantly upgrade the country's ICT sector.Gaborone City Intersections: Chinese firms constructed three major grade-separated intersections (flyovers) in the capital city to help ease traffic flow and improve pedestrian safety.Water Supply Projects: Chinese contractors have been heavily involved in upgrading water infrastructure across the country, including major works around Mahalapye to help alleviate severe regional water shortages.Airport and Housing Projects: Chinese companies have been utilized in several high-visibility projects across Gaborone, such as the expansion of the Sir Seretse Khama International Airport and large-scale housing developments."
This post was edited on 5/30/26 at 4:22 am
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
81106 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 4:47 am to
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Zimbabwe's next door neighbor Botswana 2026


I'm going to go out on a limb and say they aren't Communist.

quote:

Democratic form of government,


Well, there it is.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139709 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 5:41 am to
Hes right you know
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36262 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 5:55 am to
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You know all these countries from back in the day were so much kore civilized and proper while they were colonized and once the white man leaves it turns to utter shite.


Can we add India to that list?
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
2534 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:29 am to
Having been to Botswana on a medical mission for HIV treatments, I can assure you that photo is either AI or some weird angle lol I have no doubt they have made economic progress since their AIDS epidemic is under control but that looks questionable
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2636 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:31 am to
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Democrats don't want you know this....but you can blame George W. Bush for much of the advancement of Africa.


Headline caught my attention. Care to elaborate?
Posted by BengalShark
Member since Jul 2017
4401 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:35 am to
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Now do the same for democrat cities in the US


Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26326 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:41 am to
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Lagos




Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
13333 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 6:50 am to
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Addis Ababa would be a more "colonial" city, and this continued after the occupation. Subsequent master plans were designed by French and British consultants from the 1940s onwards


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Lagos was the capital of Nigeria until 1991. The historical concentration of British colonial infrastructure established it as the country's center of gravity.

Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
7644 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 7:23 am to
Does anything "good" come out of Africa?
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
11171 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 7:30 am to
But, but…. Dey wuz kangz!!!
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
11171 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 7:32 am to
I’ve been to Lagos. It’s a nightmare shithole supported by oil money. They have buildings and roads but no one follows traffic laws, theft and other crime is a way of life, and nothing is maintained. Rolling brown outs are routine.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23521 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 7:44 am to
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African infrastructure is growing largely because of foreign investment/technology.

Which is the equivalent of rent to own furniture because the Chinese are issuing predatory loans those nations have zero chance of ever repaying.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36262 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 7:46 am to
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the Chinese are issuing predatory loans those nations have zero chance of ever repaying.


They have zero chance of repaying regardless
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73797 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 7:46 am to
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Zimbabwe's next door neighbor Botswana 2026. Democratic form of government, stable economy, never had a war or internal strife. Things are rarely as cut and dried as memes would lead you to believe.


What’s funny is the specific example you cite, Botswana, is for all intents and purposes a welfare client of Communist China.

Citing Botswana as a success story is akin to claiming a single mom in Memphis with 7 kids by 5 different baby-daddies and living in government projects and receiving government benefits is “successful.”
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23521 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 7:51 am to
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They have zero chance of repaying regardless

Which is the entire point for the Chinese so they can then seize the domestic assets that were used as collateral like mines and ports.

They “loan” the money.
The nation has to use Chinese firms for construction so they get the money right back.
The nation can’t pay and loses their assets and autonomy.

It’s brilliant for the CHICOMS and horrible for the locals because the infrastructure they purchase isn’t maintained and ends up providing little if any benefit to the citizens while they’ve sold off the means to leverage their nation into greater prosperity in the future.
Posted by thenza
Member since Sep 2013
1615 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 7:51 am to
I listened to a podcast once on why Africa is such a shithole.

This isn’t the main reason. Just one of many:

Apparently it doesn’t have any real navigable rivers. Sure, it has lots of rivers, but the massive drops in elevation throughout the continent cause them all to have waterfalls and make them unusable for long distances by boat.

Additionally, its coast is rocky and has very few places to bring in ships. (North coast and South Africa)

These two factors led to cultures within the continent never really traveling and trading with their neighbors. And that’s how cultures grow wealth and knowledge. Basically retarded their growth throughout the era where Europe and Asia were building empires.
Posted by sharkfhin
Water
Member since Sep 2008
6410 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 7:54 am to
As they say. Everything they touch goes to shite.
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