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U.S. Sec of Energy: Clean energy tax credits a ‘big mistake’

Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:36 am
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
24712 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:36 am
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Energy Secretary Chris Wright railed against clean energy tax credits Tuesday, defending the Trump administration’s efforts to increase manufacturing powered by coal, natural gas and oil.

His criticism of financial incentives for citizens’ use of renewable energy came during a morning appearance on Fox Business’s “Varney & Co” and coincided with Earth Day — which is typically hailed as a time to champion environmental protections.

“I think it’s a big mistake,” Wright told host Stuart Varney, referring to energy tax credits.

“That term ‘clean energy’ is just a marketing term. There’s no clean energy. All energy sources involve trade-offs,” he continued. “Solar and wind take over 100 times more land, 10 times more steel and cement and heavy materials to produce. There’s no clean energy; there’s just different trade-offs.”


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Wright pegged the credit as an effort to make politicians “feel good” with few accomplishments.

“These variable weather-dependent energy sources are heavily subsidized, which means there’s jobs to build those things in certain communities and politicians think that feels good,” he said. “But at the end of the day, the result of them has been more expensive electricity in the United States, less reliable grid and the continual outsourcing of energy-intensive jobs out of our country.”

“Like this is absolutely the wrong direction, and President Trump got elected to stop that nonsense. Bring back common sense. People want affordable products,” Wright continued. “They want reliable electricity. They want manufacturing jobs in the United States.”


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Later in the segment, Wright also suggested global warming could be a positive factor for humans on Earth.

Ten times more people die of the cold every year than die of the warm. So a little bit warmer planet means a little less risky for human beings,” the Energy chief said. “Of course, there’s positives to global warming and there’s negatives too.”


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Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
68794 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:41 am to
The whole wind & solar thing is a giant boondoggle, especially wind. Solar can be a useful supplement in certain circumstances. But to think it can supplant traditional energy sources is laughable. As for wind, it takes more energy to produce and maintain wind turbines than the turbines themselves can produce.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
10191 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:43 am to
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There’s no clean energy. All energy sources involve trade-offs


THIS!
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
30594 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:44 am to
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The whole wind & solar thing is a giant boondoggle, especially wind. Solar can be a useful supplement in certain circumstances. But to think it can supplant traditional energy sources is laughable. As for wind, it takes more energy to produce and maintain wind turbines than the turbines themselves can produce.


Doesn't matter, money printer goes "brrrrrrr"
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
10191 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:45 am to
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wind & solar thing is a giant boondoggle


And yet, we will waste hundreds of billions on "carbon capture"
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
153601 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:46 am to
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There’s no clean energy. All energy sources involve trade-offs,

I'm glad he said that out loud. People don't seem to understand simple things like this when it comes to that shite.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35352 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:47 am to
"Clean energy" is meant to appeal to vapid white women.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
4795 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:48 am to
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Solar



Leftist: "We need more solar absorption panels to combat the rising in temperatures"
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
9918 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:50 am to
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hundreds of billions on "carbon capture"


It will be moments before someone chimes in with, "but it means investment for Louisiana." Retards.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
5175 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 8:07 am to
It is basically paying to pollute like the catholic church indulgence payments for sin.

And green energy is burying its no- renewable pieces and parts in the ground to sit for thousands of years.
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 1:56 pm
Posted by JohnnyBgood
South Louisiana
Member since May 2010
4387 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 8:11 am to
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There’s no clean energy. All energy sources involve trade-offs


Truer words have never been spoken. This is the reality that most people cannot grasp.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51511 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 8:22 am to
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There’s no clean energy. All energy sources involve trade-offs,” he continued. “Solar and wind take over 100 times more land, 10 times more steel and cement and heavy materials to produce.


I’m guessing Trumpists don’t believe in the concept of greenhouse gases? Yet they’ll complain when their homeowners premium is higher due to more hurricanes, sea levels rising, and erosion

A warming planet is bad for Louisiana
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 8:26 am
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
79974 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 8:27 am to
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I’m guessing Trumpists don’t believe in the concept of greenhouse gases?


You believe a man can get pregnant
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
833 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 8:31 am to
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I’m guessing Trumpists don’t believe in the concept of greenhouse gases? Yet they’ll complain when their homeowners premium is higher due to more hurricanes, sea levels rising, and erosion

A warming planet is bad for Louisiana


More hurricanes? Like we were supposed to have another Katrina every year? Um, yeah, didn't check that box.

Sea levels rising? Yet somehow the global elites, from Obama to Kerry, Gore and the WEF krewe still keep buying their beachfront properties. I thought they were supposed to be the smart ones? Missed checking that box too.......

Erosion? Prove it's not a localized issue, and that it hasn't been going on for centuries. You can't.........
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
8581 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 8:41 am to
I don't mind companies cleaning up their exhaust/pollution. I don't think taxpayers should pay for it. I also don't mind the government giving grants to help spur innovation and new forms of energy. With that being said, this whole carbon capture and sequestration crap is a complete corporate money grab.
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9186 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 8:50 am to
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“Ten times more people die of the cold every year than die of the warm. So a little bit warmer planet means a little less risky for human beings,” the Energy chief said. “Of course, there’s positives to global warming and there’s negatives too.”


Ehhhhhh.....maybe that's a bridge too far?

I 100% agree with everything else. When Billy Bob said it during Landman, I wanted to give him a standing ovation. I said out loud 'SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!!'

I'm not a Global Warming alarmist, but I think saying we're doing people a favor if we're causing global warming might have crossed the line.
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3214 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:20 am to
should have said clean energy tax credits are a giant looting scam
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
18493 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 9:30 am to
This one of those, “well no shite!!!!” Moments
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
55357 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:56 pm to
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I’m guessing Trumpists don’t believe in the concept of greenhouse gases?


Because the concept is silly. The glass panels of greenhouses are what keep the warmth in, not the CO2. Nor does CO2 act as glass panels in our atmosphere.

While CO2 does have heat-trapping capability, it's one of diminishing returns (google "radiative forcing"). Let's set 200ppm as our base for average temperature.
Going from 200ppm to 400ppm would increase temperatures by ~3.0 °C.
Going from 400ppm to 600ppm would increase temperatures by ~1.77 °C.
Going from 600ppm to 800ppm would increase temperatures by ~1.24 °C.

When looking back over the eons, atmospheric CO2 increases happen after global warming trends just as often as they precede them. Were the "concept of greenhouse gases" more than just a concept, there wouldn't be such a wide differentiation in those cycles. Instead, we would see the predictable pattern of CO2 rise, followed by temperature rise, followed by CO2 crash (as plants outgrew the environment's ability to produce CO2 at levels which sustain that much plant growth), followed by temperature drops, then a CO2 rise as the cycle began again.

Along with this, CO2 is what plants breathe and being below 200ppm is starvation levels. Growers using greenhouses usually keep CO2 levels anywhere from 800ppm-1200ppm to maximize fruit growth. While the atmosphere currently sits around 424ppm, well-ventilated homes and offices typically range 600ppm-1000ppm. This means as CO2 increases, so too do plant growth rates.

Speaking of greater plant growth, plants also help reduce heat through CO2 trapping, albedo, shading and evapotranspiration.

Distilling the climate down to "MUH CO2 GREENHOUSE GAS!11" is either sophomoric ignorance or a money-grab through preying on sophomoric ignorance.


This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 2:00 pm
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