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re: CNN – It’s a Conspiracy Theory to Say That America is a Republic and Not a Democracy

Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:21 am to
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:21 am to
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DEMOCRATS are the anti-constitutional party - They see the CONSTITUTION as an IMPEDIMENT to their agenda. They would LOVE to just have a batch of BALLOTs determine EVERY issue in the future.
Well said, Bandit. We know why these disingenuous assholes are pushing this narrative.
Posted by bird35
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:22 am to
The sharing of power between small States and large States drove the electoral college, and the differences between how House members and Senate members are appointed.

The small States would have never agreed to a straight democracy one person -one vote system.

I’m fine with the Left changing the way the number of Senators is allocated, and dropping the electoral college to a straight popular vote, BUT they have to let the States that want to leave the Union do so.


This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 8:24 am
Posted by Jimmy Russel
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:23 am to
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You should have read it all


You literally highlighted the words “when elected” in Art 1, Sec 3, as if that proved your point. The system of appointments is only used for cabinets.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:23 am to
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In direct democracy

One form of democracy, which doesn't encompass the entire spectrum of democracies.

Nobody has said we are a direct democracy
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:24 am to
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We know why these disingenuous assholes are pushing this narrative.


Always be suspicious of people who correct "Republic" with "Democracy."

100% chance they want to destroy constitutional protections.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:24 am to
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The sharing of power between small States and large States drove the electoral college, and the differences between how House members and Senate members appointed.

That's federalism, which is a 4th aspect of our government.

We're still on the first 2: democracy and republican versions of government

then once everyone understands why we are a democracy and a republic, we can move onto the 3rd aspect: a constitutional system

then once everyone understands that basic comment, we can get into the federal nature of our system.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:25 am to
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One form of democracy, which doesn't encompass the entire spectrum of democracies. Nobody has said we are a direct democracy


We are a republic numb nuts.

Jesus Christ man, put that iq to use.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:25 am to
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We know why these disingenuous assholes are pushing this narrative.


Pointing out idiots for political points.

Making your opponent look loony has been a part of democracy since Greece
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:25 am to
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We are a democracy and a republic.


We are little "d" ( ) democracy and big "R" Republic.

Big "D" Democracy is mob rule.

Ergo, the more we move away from a Republican form of government to a Democratic form, we're moving towards (and the left embraces) mob rule.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:26 am to
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We are a republic numb nuts.

We are a republic and a democracy

Again, do people vote to participate in our political system? yes or no?
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3350 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:26 am to
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Nobody has said we are a direct democracy
You mean we're a Republic? Got it. I'm glad we agree.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:26 am to
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We are little "d" ( ) democracy and big "R" Republic.


Finally common sense prevails.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:26 am to
By definition, a republic is a representative form of government that is ruled according to a charter, or constitution, and a democracy is a government that is ruled according to the will of the majority. Although these forms of government are often confused, they are quite different.



You are confused…
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 8:27 am
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:27 am to
This is why our country is so fricked. Rather than dealing with real issues, both sides think it is more important to argue over linguistic nuances.

The perfect case of pugnacious concurrence.

I really hate both sides right now.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:27 am to
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Ergo, the more we move away from a Republican form of government

We haven't done this, at least since the 17th Amendment (which brings in the constitutional nature of our government, which they aren't ready to discuss yet).

The rise of the Bureaucracy is an extreme rejection of democracy and increase in republicanism, in fact.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:27 am to
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You mean we're a Republic?


It far more accurately describes our system of govt.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:28 am to
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You mean we're a Republic? G

I have always said we are a republic. We are also a democracy.

The 2 concepts are not binary
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 8:28 am
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3350 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:28 am to
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The perfect case of pugnacious concurrence.
I think you're mistaken, Tigah. As is common with Leftists, some of them know the evil they do and some are just stupid and go along.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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435525 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:29 am to
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By definition, a republic is a representative form of government that is ruled according to a charter, or constitution,

Which we are

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and a democracy is a government that is ruled according to the will of the majority.

No that's a bad definition, but, regardless, still applies to us in most areas.

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Although these forms of government are often confused, they are quite different.

They are not binary or exclusive.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3350 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:29 am to
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I have always said we are a republic. We are also a democracy.

The 2 concepts are not binary
Can we use Democracy to vote someone off of the island? I've got a candidate.
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