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Definitive Video on Identity and Qualifications of Toronto Crash Pilots

Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:20 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:20 pm
The male Captain, James Henneman, was a Simulator Instructor for EndeavorAir. Unclear if he were also a Flight Instructor. Washed out on his attempt to move up from regional to Delta.

As reported, the female First Officer was Kendal Swanson, 26. She was flying the aircraft. She didn't have enough time yet to be type rated in that type of jet.

The YouTube creator cautions to not cast blame yet on one or both of the pilots. Clear that Delta is going to have a hard time supporting its CEO's declaration that both pilots were experienced.

If you want answers, worth watching the 13:26 video:

UPDATE: In the comments down thread, "General" cast doubts on some things asserted in this video. Give and take of PoliBoard at its finest!

This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 7:49 am
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
4577 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:43 pm to
Still confusing as to whether or not Swanson had been flying CRJs (type jet in the crash) for 6 weeks or as long as a year.
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
13839 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:50 pm to
I have the best feeling about my flight next Wednesday operated by Endeavor Air. Can't wait!
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
4577 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:51 pm to
Bright side: you might walk away with $30k.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
75777 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:06 pm to
The thought of a 26 year old female piloting the plane I am on is terrifying.
Posted by dbbuilder79
Overton NV
Member since Dec 2010
4471 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:17 pm to
So.. a woman driver flipped a plane?



Sounds about right.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20795 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:41 pm to
Has it been determined what caused the crash?
Bad piloting?
Icy runway?
Mechanical failure?
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
7972 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:43 pm to
The crux of the video was that there are still too many question marks to know the exact cause. Gotta let the investigation play out.
Posted by EliasGrodin
Hooch Two
Member since May 2024
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

Has it been determined what caused the crash?
No
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 5:18 am to
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 5:20 am to
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
9931 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 5:51 am to
DEI brings all standards down. This is what people need to understand. It's not even necessarily about whether a specific pilot was DEI, it's that the entire process makes DEI a part of the mission to begin with. Whether that be the design/engineers, the manufacturers, the ATCs, the mechanics, and the pilots.
It's also not something you necessarily look at in a case by case basis, but should be observed in the aggregate for it's cumulative effect.
This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 5:52 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
60568 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 5:58 am to
quote:

The YouTube creator cautions to not cast blame yet on one or both of the pilots.


That accident was 100% pilot error.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
60568 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 5:58 am to
quote:

quote:
Has it been determined what caused the crash?

No


Yes. Pilot error. It's just not yet official.
This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 6:01 am
Posted by General
Monroe
Member since Jul 2004
1363 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:16 am to
Delta information about the pilots

Plenty of wrong information in the video. No pilot is operating an aircraft for a 121 air carrier without being type rated. Having an R-ATP just means she hasn’t met the requirements for the full ATP and therefore can’t upgrade to Captain. You need 1000 hours of 121 time to upgrade anyway. She finished training last April according to Delta so she’s been on the line for around 10 months. She’s probably been on reserve and hasn’t flown enough to have the restriction removed or hasn’t taken the time to go to the FSDO to have it removed.

The captains name sounds familiar so I’m pretty sure I had him in training when I was there. There’s conflicting information about his time at Delta. The training at Delta isn’t any more difficult than it is at Endeavor. They’re both under AQP which is train to proficiency.

The guy in the video needs to stick to flying his 210. You don’t slip swept wing jets in a crosswind.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
9918 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:25 am to
The landing gear on one side shouldn't have collapsed, even on a "hard" touchdown. It's supposedly the first time that's happened on a CRJ. With zero altitude and little airspeed, this non-pilot wonders if having Chuck Yeagar in the cockpit would have made any difference.

DEI sucks and all, no question, but we also just had two Growler jockeys get fished out of the bay in San Diego. While really, really uncomfortable to experience, it wasn't like the crew forgot to turn on de-icing equipment or some other supremely negligent act (apparently.)
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
107550 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:25 am to
quote:

quote:
The YouTube creator cautions to not cast blame yet on one or both of the pilots.


That accident was 100% pilot error.


Exactly.

The only questions are which one, or both?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
4577 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:41 am to
Thanks, General.

Really helpful. Here's the information Delta released yesterday that you linked:

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
171460 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:47 am to
Considering the Delta CEO said they were experienced pilots I don't exactly believe anything they say about this.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
4577 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Considering the Delta CEO said they were experienced pilots I don't exactly believe anything they say about this.


I understand the litigation aspects and the desire to protect the careers of the two pilots, but Delta lost the faith of many people by not immediately addressing/attempting to eliminate the possibility that DEI COULD have been a factor.

Maybe the professional pilots here know: could Delta have immediately released the names of the two pilots or did union agreements prohibit such a release?
This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 8:02 am
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