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re: Discussing Aliens/UFOs on Tucker

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Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 11:10 am to
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If there was an advanced civilization previously we would seen their fossils, buildings, parking lots and ships and plastic in the fossil record.

I appreciate it. Yeah the point above does stick out to me quite a bit. I hadn't thought about that.
Posted by aubie101
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 11:10 am to
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These scientists did not need to divorce science from religion and they found that science supports the biblical record.
LINK - Reasons to believe


James Tour LINK John Lennox LINK are brilliant scientists who do not run from their faith.

This idea that faith and reason cannot exist is a weak argument.
Posted by Dawgirl
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 11:11 am to
Your entire comment is complete BS.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 11:12 am to
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Your entire comment is complete BS.


I also get that from family members.
But we are also talking about alien life on this planet.
This post was edited on 10/10/20 at 11:13 am
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 11:14 am to
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If there was an advanced civilization previously we would seen their fossils, buildings, parking lots and ships and plastic in the fossil record. We are the pinnacle and end product of it all right now. Bear with me man because geology can be tedious and boring. I hope this helps.


Or we are simply looking in the wrong places. The rainforest, deserts, oceans, under the ice.

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But we are also talking about alien life on this planet.

cephalopods
This post was edited on 10/10/20 at 11:17 am
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 11:18 am to
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Or we are simply looking in the wrong places. The rainforest, deserts, oceans, under the ice.


Man I need to give this up. The short answer is no. We are the most advanced animal form on this planet ever. Or we are the only animal to solve the calculus, understand and substantiate physics and chemistry and to be able to ponder this stuff. Now with billions and billions of stars and planets there may be other things out there doing the same thing.
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 11:27 am to
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The short answer is no.


No, the short answer is we THINK, no.

Until we have discovered everything there is to discover on this planet you can’t rule it out, for fricks sake they’re finding long lost ruins in rainforest every year with lidar. How can you say, with certainty, we won’t find something under the ice in Antarctica? What makes you so certain there isn’t a lost city of “Atlantis” under the sea? What makes you so certain there aren’t hidden ruins in the deserts?

You seem to be be unwilling to entertain the idea that we, as humans, simply don’t have all the answers and there is a frick ton we DONT know about our planet and our history. Just because we haven’t found it yet doesnt mean it isn’t there.

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Or we are the only animal to solve the calculus, understand and substantiate physics and chemistry and to be able to ponder this stuff.


That’s an extremely selfish train of thought. The universe is vast.
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Now with billions and billions of stars and planets there may be other things out there doing the same thing.

But you JUST said no. We would know, we’d find their evidence. If they’re out there and they are hyper intelligent, how do you know they haven’t been here?

Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 11:34 am to
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But you JUST said no. We would know, we’d find their evidence. If they’re out there and they are hyper intelligent, how do you know they haven’t been here?

The reason I need to get out of this discussion.
We are the only animals on this PLANET to do all of that. I have no idea what life forms outside this planet may have done. That's it. And prior advanced civilization ON THIS PLANET, subject to mass extinction would leave evidence in the fossil record. I'm talking ABOUT THIS PLANET. I don't know is going on around Alpha Centauri.
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 11:40 am to
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The reason I need to get out of this discussion.
We are the only animals on this PLANET to do all of that. I have no idea what life forms outside this planet may have done. That's it.


How do you know they haven’t been here? If they’ve been here, we aren’t the only ones on this planet to do all of that.

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And prior advanced civilization ON THIS PLANET, subject to mass extinction would leave evidence in the fossil record.


And we are STILL CURRENTLY FINDING NEW PIECES OF THE FOSSIL RECORD ON THIS PLANET.

Aka. You. Do. Not. Know. We. Do. Not. Know. We. Have. Not. Discovered. Everything, there. Is. To. Descover. On. Earth.

Our CURRENT and WIDESPREAD belief is that we are alone and have always been alone. That doesn’t mean that might change with a new discovery. One that you seem absolutely reluctant to believe can happen.
This post was edited on 10/10/20 at 11:42 am
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 11:42 am to
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 11:43 am to
Do you have a four year college degree?
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 11:43 am to
So, you believe humans currently know everything there is to know about the fossil record? There are no unknowns? No chance of a new fossil being found? We’ve searched everywhere and found everything?
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 11:44 am to
Working on number 2. Is that alright?
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 1:04 pm to
I just watched the Phenomenon. Had to buy it. It was one of the better ufo docs I’ve seen. They brought up a few ufo events that few people know about, which was the landing(s) by the school in Australia in the 60’s and the one in Africa with schoolchildren as well. These were major events as hundreds of people witnessed these 2 events. Both are some of the better ufo stories out there, although only people who have really dug into the topic know about. Those 2 are worth further investigation by the normies out there.

Amazon Prime has hundreds of UFO docs. YouTube has many as well, but they are hard as hell to locate.
This post was edited on 10/10/20 at 1:11 pm
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 1:09 pm to
Honestly, I’m just happy that it’s okay for people, especially scientists, to talk about this now. The discussions have gravitated into really interesting ones.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 1:27 pm to
Another thing I have been noticing after 20 years of researching stuff like this is the number of infrared videos that catch some pretty amazing videos. You can’t see these things with the naked eye most of the time. The latest Nimitz videos, the one with the Mexican fighter pilot where they tracked like a dozen or so objects, the crazy one with the Chilean helicopter pilot, etc.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 3:00 pm to
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hard to believe technology exist to cover those distances between stars.


Black holes exist, so it's not that big of a leap to assume a wormhole exists...

Muchless, just warping spacetime to propel an object...this also exists.

I'm not sure why you believe in a chasm of reason over what already exists.

Gravity warps spacetime and it's just about the weakest thing out there. Imagine for a second what electromagnetism could do...

Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 3:09 pm to
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And prior advanced civilization ON THIS PLANET, subject to mass extinction would leave evidence in the fossil record.


That's not absolutely true. We are missing millions of fossil records of missing link animals that bridged transformations from one creature to another.

We dont know yet...

And 99% everything in our civilization could easily be dissolved by the environment in 10-20 thousand years...

Even massive stone carvings and whatnot (rushmore) can be eaten by a few glaciation periods.

The processes of earth carved the Grand Canyon in just a paltry several million years...

They can certainly erase us just as swiftly
Posted by oleusakid
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 5:28 pm to
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If there was an advanced civilization previously we would seen their fossils, buildings, parking lots and ships and plastic in the fossil record.


I appreciate it. Yeah the point above does stick out to me quite a bit. I hadn't thought about that.


Not if they A) Don't die B) have structures in another galaxy C) do have these artifacts, but are hidden in Area 51, Alaska, or that one secret place in Russia.

Plus, if they can transport, then what makes us think one can't transport a dead comrade to their "home".

Additionally, what makes us think we'd see their "ships and plastic fossil records" on earth?
Posted by bass
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 9:21 pm to
Guys (and gals), why don’t we have clear pictures of the moon?

We’ve had satellites circling it taking photos for multiple decades.

But there’s nothing but the occasional photo that appears on the dark web (likely from several years ago). The photos on Google moon are so doctored and smudged up it’s infuriating.

With today’s technology and the proximity, we should be doing VR tours at every location.

Rarely, is the moon ever mentioned, and it’s full of mystery.
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