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re: Discussing Aliens/UFOs on Tucker

Posted on 10/10/20 at 9:42 pm to
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 9:42 pm to
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Rarely, is the moon ever mentioned, and it’s full of mystery.


Will change as Musk and private ventures start “seeing” the moon

Much mystery regarding the moon. I have posted a bunch about this

Comments:
Revelator is not wrong regarding “the others” presenting themselves as gods

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=1s&v=NcUghDZCRSw

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We Are Not Alone On This Planet - Also Known As The "Others" In The Past Were Called "The Watchers"


Background:

Tom Delonge gave a few interviews before his group aided in releasing the Nimitz footage. Since the release, Delonge has been fairly quiet (with the focus on science and the videos). In those interviews (including on Rogan), he discussed “others” underground, in our oceans and on our moon (which is likely an augmented body in a bordering on miraculously purposeful location serving as an observatory of sorts).
This post was edited on 10/10/20 at 9:43 pm
Posted by Kcprogguitar
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 9:56 pm to
Let’s set aside the speed over distance problem for a moment. You also would have to know where to look. We’re a fly speck solar system, on the edge of an unremarkable galaxy. Btw, I’m positive that the speed over distance problem is insurmountable...but I’m open to having my mind changed..as if anyone cared.

There’s also the issue of progression. The earth didn’t form into a life supporting planet instantly. There was a progression of events that gradually shaped the environment, which incidentally, will be hostile to life in another 800 million years as the earth moves from its present orbit. But forget that, let’s speak of the real issue we’ll never find life elsewhere.

We know, absolutely, that there have been several extinction events from space. This is an existential threat to every single species and every single person. The greatest nation this planet has ever seen is tearing itself apart instead of addressing the threat to our existence. And the saddest part is, we have the technology, we just don’t have the foresight.

You see, we’re not as smart as some of you think we are. Your way of life doesn’t mean a single frick to an asteroid, and yet, that’s our focus. Orangeman/antifa. It’s laughably sad.

Posted by CajunTiger78
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 10:04 pm to
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Aliens are simply demonic beings presenting themselves as extraterrestrial. In the past, they masqueraded themselves to the ancients as mythological gods like, Thor, Zeus, Apollo, etc.
One day, maybe soon, they will present themselves to the public, where they will say they are our creators and there is no God.


I'd imagine if we showed someone from the year 1020 a smart phone or a TV they would think you were a demonic wizard sent by Satan himself.

People always seem to want to use this excuse when they don't understand something. Look at Salem and tge witch trials back in the 18th century for a great example.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 10:16 pm to
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I'd imagine if we showed someone from the year 1020 a smart phone or a TV they would think you were a demonic wizard sent by Satan himself. People always seem to want to use this excuse when they don't understand something. Look at Salem and tge witch trials back in the 18th century for a great example.


Fairies, demons, elves, Jinn, angels, Greek gods, etc...
Whatever the phenomena is, it projects culturally appropriate images back to us...

Famous book by one of the best minds researching this



Salem witch issue may have been ergot influence on crops (folks impacted were trippin / bridged into a different reality). We discuss in other threads that certain chemicals/practices may be doorways to different realities (many folks encounter entities/others)
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 10:38 pm to
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Look at Salem and tge witch trials back in the 18th century for a great example


Meanwhile in Louisiana churches...

Double-dom on that statement.
Posted by nematocyte
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 3:45 am to
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And I suppose if people knew all of your beliefs, it would contain ridiculous things as well which you don’t view as ridiculous.


Of course some percentage of people would find my beliefs ridiculous, that's always going to be the case with virtually anyone's beliefs, but I doubt you'd find a single person that wasn't operating under some kind of supernatural assumption that would find them ridiculous.

That's the point. As soon as you start invoking supernatural mumbo jumbo, anything can mean anything to anyone.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 3:48 am
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:20 am to
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One is a glowing ball of purplish blue plasma hovering about a thousand feet up at night, it turned orange and shot off quickly after some time. The other is a metallic object in broad daylight that appears to shift shapes about 5,000 to 7,000 feet up. Both completely silent


upload it to YouTube and link it
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 5:05 am to
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hard to believe technology exist to cover those distances between stars.


It won't be a problem for the simulation.
Posted by CajunTiger78
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 8:59 am to
Bottom line is that if a civilization is even a few hundred years ahead of us their technology would be beyond what we currently know, or think we know. Science is always revealing things we thought were impossible or improbable.

Now just think of a civilization that is thousands or even millions of years ahead of us.
Posted by bass
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:23 am to
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upload it to YouTube and link it

The videos aren’t really that impressive, it was shot on my iPhone and doesn’t really show any recognizable features of the crafts. The photos I posted were screenshots zoomed in, and that’s about as good as it gets.

On the one at night, the camera only picks up a blueish purple hue, but with my eyes I was able to see what looked to be lights surrounding the halo of the bottom of the craft. If you zoom in to the night photo, you can sort of see the lights around the craft in an octagonal shape.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 9:30 am
Posted by steadytiger
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:28 am to
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Lol, it was interesting, but as a scientist I remain a skeptic. The distances of interstellar space are phenomenal, hard to believe technology exist to cover those distances between stars.



Says the scientist who thinks he understands the universe(s). We are like monkeys stumbling on to a working TV, scratching their asses and in monkey talk, explaining how those pictures come to the screen. Pull in your intelligence hubris, and try to use some humility when trying to understand something you have insufficient tools to comprehend. I don't mean to insult your intelligence, I only mean to remind everyone we are monkey brains trying to comprehend that which we can only imagine.
Posted by steadytiger
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:35 am to
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Clarke’s 3rd Law.



Bingo!

British science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke formulated three adages that are known as Clarke's three laws, of which the third law is the best known and most widely cited. They are part of his ideas in his extensive writings about the future.[1] These so-called laws are:
When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 9:41 am to
I have a Bachelor of Science degree but, I have never claimed to be a "Scientist". What makes someone a scientist?
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 10:33 am to
I would guess "one world power/voice and you can join our galactic club".
Posted by nematocyte
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 2:02 pm to
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I have a Bachelor of Science degree but, I have never claimed to be a "Scientist". What makes someone a scientist?


On the most basic level, anyone applying the scientific method to attempt to solve a problem or answer a question is, at least in those moments, a scientist.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 2:29 pm to
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I think there's a theory out there that millions upon millions upon who the hell knows years ago there was humankind very much similar to ours now in terms of technological capabilities and human evolution. And the bastards killed themselves off completely with nuclear war. It might even be something like humankind like this has been wiped out and restarted many times. Or something like that, hell I don't know. Looks good on paper


This is one I've given a lot of thought to. One such story I've heard is that it has actually happened 4 times in the past. But each time there has been a small segment of the population survive by moving off planet.

The biggest problem I think we have faced in all of this is that the establishment knows we have access to "otherworldly" technology, but due to the disruptance this would cause to the current global order these technologies are scrapped. Or at least kept under wraps. The same thing happened with Tesla when he was pushing for his wireless electric grid. It would have been free energy. JP Morgan shot that down by saying, "I can't put a meter on free" and that was the end of it.

So back to the breakaway civilization idea is that each time humanity progresses to a certain level, this choice has to be made. What are you gonna do with this technology you have acquired? Will you use it for humanity's benefit, or keep it under wraps. Each time leaders decide to keep it under wraps, there eventually becomes a group of people who simply move off planet. And we have one such group now. The team was formed by a coalition of six Nations. Scientist types mostly. And these folks come back once per decade and plea with the leaders to release the tech, but they keep getting shot down.

Or so the story goes. And if there's any truth in that particular story, it looks like they may have found a willing leader in Trump.

I'm reminded of something Trump allegedly said right after being elected. "I may not survive this first week, but if I do everyone is going to win." Those are interesting words. In order for everyone to win I think you're basically saying you're going to do something paradigm altering.

He also once said, "when you get right down to it, the technology is the real reason why I'm here."
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 2:32 pm to
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Harry Reed & Podesta's involvement in this makes me scratch my head.


The old plan, pre Trump, involved hoaxing an alien invasion as a means of establishing a one global government. Imo anyways.
Posted by mrgreenpants
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Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 3:45 pm to
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Any evidence to support this position ?

And by 'here', what exactly do you mean? Earth ? There's nothing 'local' in this part of the galaxy which we've observed that's remotely suitable for life to exist, and not advanced intelligent life



sure.

whats the one place on earth that "we".. have literally zero access to?
..the single most inhospitable place for humans to wander on the planet?

antarctica.
more precisely...below that 2 km layer of ice.

under that that ice layer i believe is a range of 17-18 volcanoes with convecting phonolitic lava lakes
..and a rather peculiar ancient mountain range which you would not think should *not* exist under what is basically a glacier.

i do not believe there is anything else like it on the planet...and it had never been explored.



my guess is there is some interesting stuff there...

to my simple mind..
it is much more plausible that the flying objects that we can not identify...are either 1. from here.. or 2. "visitors" that have maybe been here longer than humans have been on this planet.

what if there are civilizations that view us the same way that we view those natives in the brazil rainforests?

what if we are seen as sooooo "primitive"...even knowing they exisit would destroy all we know and believe?

what is they are so far advanced.. we couldn't even percieved their existence.. much less have any sort of constructive relationship.


btw, the space force logo is curious to me?

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Top one is Orion (Hunter), left brightest star is Rigel.
Notice the Three Kings in the Orion's Belt and the Orion Nebula (M42) in the Orion's Sword.

Bottom left one is Cygnus (Swan), the bottom brightest star is Deneb.
Notice that it closely follows the shape of a swan in flight, albeit the apparent magnitude and position of other stars again seems rather random.

Bottom right one is a tricky one but might be the part of Andromeda with the Andromeda Galaxy, or the part of Lyra with Vega, or more likely - simply some randomly painted stars.



i'd guess..
IF it true that there are 3 "alien" races that we met.. 2 are represented in those constellations (the 3rd has always been "here" on earth)




another guess..
what our ancestors knew as gods, angels and demons...and what we call "aliens"
are more than likely one and the same thing.


This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 4:43 pm
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 3:49 pm to
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a Christian, the Bible is filled with encounters with angels and stories of fallen angels. For someone who doesn’t believe in spiritual beings, it might sound outlandish. But to a person who believes in the supernatural, it’s not.


Isn't God by definition an extraterrestrial being? What really is the difference between what you describe as supernatural ( a meaningless term imo) and what others are observing as UFO s and alien visitation?
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 3:56 pm to
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Isn't God by definition an extraterrestrial being? What really is the difference between what you describe as supernatural ( a meaningless term imo) and what others are observing as UFO s and alien visitation?


I mean, you can go right back to the Renaissance time period and see tons of examples of people painting spiritually themed paintings with UFOs clearly visible in the background...
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