re: Discussing Aliens/UFOs on Tucker

Put those pics on here ???

Let’s assume the universe has a 14.6 billion year shelf life (debatable, but let’s assume it)

Let’s also assume that WE survive for 2 million more years and create advanced bio-tech, advanced interstellar propulsion, inter-dimensional tech etc.

Using this tech, we as a species survive all over the universe for 14.6 billion years.

Then at the end of the 14.6 billion years, we send ourselves back 7 billion years and live in the past for 7.6 billion years until the end - repeating the cycle over and over

This leads to two crazy conclusions
1. The age of humanity is actually infinite and we haven’t realized it yet as a seed planet
2. Every single alien civilization that exists in the universe is actually us - scattered throughout as a result of these loops

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I'm a geologist and I love thinking about how life evolved on earth. And it's a long spectacular history. Religions take a different view

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SOME faiths WITHIN religion do

Religion, itself, is not opposed to evolution

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Now if we then project this history to an advanced other planet intelligent life why could they exist at his advanced level for many, many millions of years? So the whole aspect of our knowledge of evolution superimposed on long lived alien civilizations is well, alien to what has happened on earth. There are so many occurrences out there that can destroy life. There have been so many mass extinctions on planet earth.

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Thought experiment

What if this has indeed played out on Earth?

If we suppose surface cataclysms (solar, bolide, other) that decimated life, what would be the implications? (Considering we can mainly only explore the surface, terrestrial regions)

If you were to survive such surface cataclysm, what provisions could you take

Would you consider living within the planet?
Would you consider living underneath the ocean?
Would you create technology that allows you transmedium travel?
Would you create hybrids to live on the surface and still be able to commute to the surface for resources /needs?
Would you assist surface life when they become a threat to the ecosystem (y’all think “aliens” would be interested in nukes or the environment they are being detonated in???)

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It’s no more nonsense than believing a man can be raised from the dead after 3 days in the grave, walk on water, cure leprosy or feed 5,000 with only a few small fish and a couple loaves of bread is it?

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On the bullshite spectrum, I suppose you have a point. People that are credulous enough to believe one ridiculous thing tend to be credulous enough to believe 10 ridiculous things.

Makes me dismiss it...

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We’re a simulation. The super smart and advanced aliens, instead of traveling across the universe to find life simply uses simulations to see where life is possible to develop.

That time you walked into the kitchen and immediately forgot what you went in to get? Your command alien simply canceled your action à la sims style

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or when you go to the kitchen and open cabinets wanting a snack and then go to the fridge and open it and just stare.

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Interesting point, and raises the legitimate question as to whether there were past evolved societies and mankind much like we have now that were victims of those mass extinctions.

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My question for you is where? On what planet? Humans view ourselves as the center/focus of it all (and we are to an extent) but we are just a branch of primates in the Phylum Chordata. Primates are recent and man is even more recent. Man has never been subjected to a mass extinction. We are very, very, very recent in a life history of over three billion years on the planet. Know that any advanced civilization outside earth will also be subject to their own events causing mass extinction.

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I don't mean that rhetorically, I certainly don't have any level of specialized knowledge in the area. Thus my curiosity.

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I understand. There is a continuous life history in the fossil record for the last 600 million plus years. About 540 million years ago life exploded in diversity. In Canada and China there are very limited occurrences of fossils of Chordates and Vertebrates. Very rare. Those are our most distant ancestors. The large vertebrates in Cretaceous (145 to 66 million years ago)for instance are the dinosaurs. Then 66 or so million years ago they went mostly extinct and some evolved into birds. After that time there is the rise in the next class of vertebrates, mammals (we included). But our mammalian man like ancestors are fairly recent the last 10 million years and less. And man (Homo sapiens) is on the order of 600 to 700,000 years old. I'm probably off on some of the year numbers but am mostly correct. If there was an advanced civilization previously we would seen their fossils, buildings, parking lots and ships and plastic in the fossil record. We are the pinnacle and end product of it all right now. Bear with me man because geology can be tedious and boring. I hope this helps.