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re: Real climate cataclysm: Scientists Can No Longer Ignore Ancient Flooding Tales (Netflix)

Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by BayouBlitz
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:07 pm to
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The ultraterrestrial aspect of the UAP phenomena likely involves advanced survivors of this cataclysm (went off world vs underground vs under the ocean to guard against recurring events)


Oh Lord.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:09 pm to
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Flats




you are right flats. it really does not make him look less dumb. i was trying to be nice.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 1:11 pm
Posted by Audustxx
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:31 pm to
Of course there is issue of money. But my simple kinda a man view is another us vs them situation. Man is in control vs God is in control. Im on team God is in control
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:56 pm to
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Oh Lord.


That response is indeed appropriate on many levels…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dfPfPB601hw

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Graham Hancock: Aliens, Atlantis & the Apocalypse

Jesse Michels 8.3K Likes 263,525 Views Dec 22 2022

Graham Hancock is an unrelenting journalist uncovering the origins of humanity’s forgotten past. His new docuseries on Netflix is called Ancient Apocalypse and it documents the abundance of evidence that humanity is much older than the prevailing belief among mainstream archeologists. Most people believe civilization was started a mere 6,000 years ago in the Fertile Crescent. Graham explores various archeological sites across the globe that show in fact our civilization is much older than this. In this raw longform interview we discuss the secrets of Atlantis, the ark of the covenant, DMT as a window into the spirit world and of course, UFOs and aliens.


Episode starts with the host asking Randall Carlson if survivors of “Atlantis” are based on earth (underwater) and on the moon. Randall answers yes…

Randall also hinted that revolutionary energy production was going to be open sourced in 2023 while on Rogan (he is supposed to go back on JRE to focus on that content in January)

Compare to next post about Tom Delonge

This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 5:58 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:57 pm to
Prior context:

When Tom Delonge first came onto the scene, here is what he was saying. You can also go watch his “weird” interview with Joe Rogan




Below is from a longer thread:

Here is what Delonge said in an interview in 2016:

Gets interesting/weird:
Warning: PDF below



https://projectavalon.net/Linda_Howe_Earthfiles_report_Tom_Delonge_May_2016.pdf

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UAPs and Alien “Gods” 2016
by Linda Moulton Howe

“We are part of a symbiotic relationship with something which disguises itself as an extra-terrestrial invasion so as not to alarm us.” - Terence McKenna, Author, Food of the Gods

“I was told that there are numerous E. T. ‘gods’ fighting amongst themselves and they are interjecting themselves into human affairs. I am being told that a lot of this is being kept secret because we are trying not to initiate a conflict with ‘an adversary that we poorly understand.’” - Tom DeLonge, co-author, Sekret Machines: Chasing Shadows © March 2016, collaborating with 10 U. S. military and intelligence advisers on E. T. facts


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May 28, 2016 Encinitas, California - The United States entered World War II in December 1941, after Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. Our other enemy was Germany’s Adolph Hitler and his Nazi Schutzstaffel, also known as the “S.S.,” a paramilitary protection squad for Adolf Hitler and the National Socialist German Workers’ Party, known as the Nazis. Hitler’s stated goal was to annihilate the Jewish population on Earth and take over the planet with an Aryan race of blond, blue-eyed beings referred to as Nordics.


It is further alleged that a sinister Alien Force was behind Hitler and the Nazis and continued insidious infiltrations after World War II when the United States authorized Project PAPERCLIP to bring hundreds of German rocket scientists into U. S. military and aerospace companies. Once an enemy, those German scientists were embraced inside America to create a United States nuclear weapons program and to get America to the moon in a program called Apollo.

Many insights about that historic schizophrenia have been released in the past six months in two books, allegedly with approval by military and intelligence operatives behind the scenes. One book is firsthand non-fiction; the other is fiction-based-on-fact. Both have the same theme: U. S. military intelligence during and after World War II became conscious of a powerful alien presence that emerged from Earth’s oceans and seas, from inside mountains and from the miles-deep ice of Antarctica.




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Tonight I’ll begin about all this with the recent fiction-based-on-fact book and follow in the second half-hour with an engineer insider’s non-fiction. Two months ago in March 2016, a large 675-page book entitled Sekret Machines: Chasing Shadows was released. The co-authors are Tom DeLonge and A. J. Hartley. The word “Sekret” is spelled with a “k” instead of a “c” echoing the “k” added to the word magic long ago for serious communion with other dimensions. Then there is the U. S. government’s changing the “g” in magic to a “j” for TOP SECRET MAJIC classification on UFO and E. T. -related documents. And Russians and Germans insert “k”s in words like A-m-e-r-i-K-a and politiK.


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41-year-old Tom DeLonge was born and raised in San Diego, California, and became the guitarist and co-lead vocalist for the American rock band Blink-182 in the 1990s. Currently he is guitarist and lead vocalist of the rock band Angels & Airwaves. On the dust jacket of his Sekret Machines, Tom writes about UFO, E.T. and “alien gods” after collaboration with a group of ten advisers from military and intelligence agencies. On the book’s dust jacket Tom wrote: “This first novel in our trilogy sets up important events that had their genesis as far back as World War II and continue into the present day. ... I know it seems unbelievable, but it’s all, and always, a true story. That is what fiction is for: to tell the truth.”

One truth, say his advisers, is that the alien presence is an existential risk — meaning, life is not guaranteed for humans — and an extinction event could be triggered by unfriendly aliens to deliberately wipe out Homo sapiens sapiens. So, now is a crucial time for humanity to learn that we are not alone in this universe and that friendly and unfriendly Others have been interacting with this planet for millions of years — some even dominating humans as “alien gods” of Greece, India, the Yucatan, Peru, Mesopotamia, Atlantis and around the world for eons.


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YOUR ADVISORS USE THE TERM ‘THE OTHERS’? Yes. In my communications with certain people within my advisory group, it is referred to as The Others. The Others makes a lot of sense because the first thing that people need to realize about the UFO phenomenon is that it’s an Intelligence that’s here, has always been here. And I think calling them The Others makes a lot more sense because they are in our oceans, they are on our moon, they might be underground in certain places. So, you’re talking about the Other groups of intelligences that are here on the planet with us. AND YOU HAVE ATTRIBUTED ‘OTHERS’ TO GODS WITH A LITTLE G. CAN YOU PLEASE GO INTO THAT NOW? All the different areas of the world have different stories of gods. And I call that the little ‘g.’ These are beings that have god-like powers that are meddling in human affairs, but they are not what God is. The idea of whatever the Big G God that created the universe — whatever Force of Nature that might be — is different. I was told that there are numerous ‘gods’ fighting amongst themselves and they are interjecting themselves into human affairs — that those myths are true. All those ancient stories, those are real. You look at a lot of the studies that you have done, Linda, and what people have followed over the past 30 to 40 years — some people who have worked in these facilities have all talked about ancient hieroglyphics being on these craft. And they look like ancient Greek. I am told that they are ancient Greek, that there is a major connection to the hardware that we have and the ancient Greek Gods.
Posted by uaslick
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 8:19 pm to
https://www.al.com/news/mobile/2017/06/underwater_forest_discovered_alabama.html

Video about the forest discovered south of Gulf Shores, AL. Estimated age = 60,000 yrs. (during the ice age). Sorry for the al.com link.
Edit: during an earlier ice age, not the most recent one.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 8:46 pm
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 8:38 pm to
I live near this. Not talked about much. The narrative just does not fit
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:02 pm to
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/05/magazine/younger-dryas-impact-hypothesis-comet.html?unlocked_article_code=1.aU0.6cq9.ejvSzT3Z3yvJ

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The Comet Strike Theory That Just Won’t Die

Mainstream science has done its best to debunk the notion, but a belief in a world-changing series of prehistoric impacts continues to gain momentum.

Share full article 578 By Zach St. George Published March 5, 2024 Updated March 8, 2024



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The widespread interest in the impact hypothesis outside academia can appear difficult to understand, says Tristan Sturm, a geographer at Queen’s University Belfast, who studies apocalyptic narratives and conspiracy theories. “Archaeology is not a superpopular topic,” he points out. Nor does grasping the truth about the impact hypothesis have obvious importance for the average person. But he says that it has a clear resonance with multiple cultural strains. Notably, it echoes and affirms Christian apocalyptic narratives, including that of Noah’s flood. “People are always looking for justification for their beliefs,” he says. “If they can find archaeological evidence for something that happens in Genesis, brilliant.”

More broadly, the hypothesis’ fringe status appeals to those who are experiencing what Sturm calls “conspiracism,” the reflexive distrust of authority figures, including politicians, journalists and, increasingly, scientists. A tendency toward conspiracism does not necessarily mean someone subscribes to actual conspiracy theories, Sturm says; rather, it is a gap in the epistemological immune system through which conspiracy theories enter.



This is at the root of why the theory is being attacked by “skeptics”

These silly stories told by believers may not be just stories…

Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:14 pm to
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Delonge


https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=shared&v=9FbFRoXrOzo

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TTS* Talks #12 The Phenomena: Science, Religion and Consciousness w/Tom DeLonge & Jim Semivan To The Stars* 1.1K Likes 24,188 Views Feb 20 2024

In this episode of TTS* Talks, Tom DeLonge and Jim Semivan challenge the conventional approach to UAPs and discuss provocative theories of an interplay between science, religion and consciousness.


Delonge is interviewed by a CIA agent

Interesting stuff/take. I agree with Delonge that the root of UAP is going to be very weird.

Beware of demons and silly make believe stories

Remember that the DoD stated at the onset that this is demonic. They may not have been lying. Labels and perceptions get complex, especially if something is trying to purposefully deceive us..

We are currently flooded with information…
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:12 pm to
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between 15,000 and 6,000 years ago

Hmmm

Remind me again what else happened during that time frame? Oh thats right the writings of the foundation of a one God theology. Ya know the one that included a global flood story that is mocked by dumbasses, despite all the roots of modern society being traced back to that one spot in Turkey where a boat mythologically landed. Ya know things like

* Origins of agriculture.
* Agriculture that encompasses both crop and livestock production
* Five of most important species of domesticated animals: cows, goats, sheep, pigs and horses are traced to this area
* Rise of many species of edible plants from experiments in cultivation
* Legumes were first domesticated in this region.
* Emergence of early complex societies
* Using characters for communication, or writing began here
* The first libraries appeared there about 4,500 years ago
* The formation of hierarchical state level societies earned the region the nickname "The cradle of civilization"
* Engineered the first levee systems
* Home to the earliest known human civilizations
* Migration began here into the Near East, westward into Europe and North Africa
* All present day Europeans share strong genetic affinities to inhabitants of the Fertile Crescent
* Languages are traced to this area
* Birthplace of the wheel, and irrigation systems
* Ancient societies from this region designed pottery, early systems of banking and credit, property ownership and the first codes of law
* The bronze age began here
* All major religions have branched from teachers in this area
* Mathematics originated there
* The first large city, Uruk, was uncovered in the ark story region
* Originated time passing. Use of their base 60 that eventually gave us 60 seconds and 60 minutes. As well as a division of that for the 12 lunar cycles, 12 hours of day, 12 hours of night
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:38 pm to
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Notably, it echoes and affirms Christian apocalyptic narratives, including that of Noah’s flood.


I don’t even find this scientifically controversial. The sea levels were much lower during biblical times.



Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 6:43 am to
Wait...

You're telling me that SUVs and cow farts have been a round since around 13000 BC?
Posted by WylieTiger
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 6:55 am to
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It's a curiosity that the Ice Age ended with record flooding and catastrophic manmade global warming, and it coincided with the advent and spread of agriculture in the Middle East, Southern Europe and East Asia. No doubt the proliferation of large farm animals and their production of greenhouse gases made for a drastically warmer planet as the Neolithic Age transitioned into the Bronze Age.


did El Gaucho write this for you?
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 7:46 am to
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roughly 15,000 and 6,000


Considering the earliest point is 6000 years ago, the gap of 9,000 years is very rough. I thought for sure Carlson and Hancock believe it to be 12,000 years ago
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 7:52 am to
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Yet there had been a flood. A big one. Between roughly 15,000 and 6,000 years ago, massive flooding
Ya don't say ...

Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 4/6/24 at 4:31 pm to
Excerpts from the book, Escaping from Eden



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The Clovis Comet is itself named after the civilization, the study of whose remains on the continent of North America, led to the comet’s discovery. These archaeological finds, and others besides, raise the same question. Might it be that between 12,900 and 11,600 years ago the human race had to bounce back after a cataclysm so world-changing that it nearly wiped us off the planet? What would the memory be of human beings living on the fringe of that catastrophe?

Post freezing, fire and flood, famine and re-freezing, what help would those refugee survivors have needed in order to rebuild their lives? First and foremost, for any kind of normalcy to return, the dark canopy of dust and soot and ash shrouding the light of the sun would need to be cleared. The flood waters would need to be defended against and habitable land reclaimed. The land would need to be rehabilitated for life on the surface, for the cultivation of crops and the husbandry of livestock.

As The Powerful Ones went about these tasks, the surviving human population on these isolated pockets of land would see first the sun, then the moon, and then the stars. Next would be the re-emergence of useful land, then vegetation and animal life. In short, the emergence of the world as we know it would be remembered much as the story goes in the first chapter of Genesis. Furthermore, a significant clue remains in the Genesis texts as we have them today, that suggest what we are reading is actually the account of a recovery of the planet and a recovery of life. Within our conventional reading this clue would give the appearance of another anomaly. However, once we reframe the story and read our creation texts through the lens of a global relaunch, suddenly this verse makes perfect sense.

The clue in question in the story of Genesis 1 is that before any of the work of “creation” has begun the Earth already exists – covered in water and shrouded in darkness. How can the Earth exist – and water – and even darkness – before light, before the sun or stars? How can there already be an Earth, already covered in ocean, before the first word of creation has been spoken? The Hebrew words describing the state of the planet – tohu wa bohu – imply a chaotic, empty wasteland. Is it possible that the text is showing us Earth post-cataclysm, flooded and shrouded in dust and soot – just as in the ELE (extinction level event) that wiped out the dinosaurs? The picture painted by Genesis 1 matches exactly what we would expect to see if a superior species landed on the planet to help the human species bounce back after a global catastrophe. The primordial step would have to be the separation of salt waters from fresh waters for drinking and agriculture, along with the clearing of the atmosphere to allow the sun to drive all the natural forces that fuel life on Earth. Step two would need to rehabilitate tracts of land for habitation and cultivation. Step three would have to be the replenishing of animal and human species. In short, the recovery sequence would be remembered in exactly the way that Genesis outlines




IMO, this is a big part of the secrecy surrounding the UAP topic

Genesis/Reboot

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The Beginning 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. 3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day. 6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day. 9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good. 11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day. 14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day. 20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day. 24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.” 27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. 28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.” 29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so. 31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.


Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 4/6/24 at 5:00 pm to
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Carlson and Hancock will be proven correct in the end.


It's becoming undeniable.

Orthodoxy has no place in history and of course, Science.

The cabal of Egyptologists obfuscating the search for truth is infuriating...archeology should be bereft of historical politicization.
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