re: Real climate cataclysm: Scientists Can No Longer Ignore Ancient Flooding Tales (Netflix)

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What is that?

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Display in Prometheus of the underlying content of the pyramid
Graphics in the Netflix series are similar when presenting underground structures at ancient sites



I am a huge Prometheus fan

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Wouldn't this imply that it's not something that is caused by humans burning fossil fuels?

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Did they still have cow farts though?

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Scientists Can No Longer Ignore Ancient Flooding Tales

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A couple geologists named Pittman and Ryan wrote a book called Noah's Flood. It is fantastic and a very worthwhile read regarding floods in the earth's history.

Geologically time speaking, the flood related to Noah occurred a short time ago.

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Geologically time speaking, the flood related to Noah occurred a short time ago.

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Geologically, there is no evidence that a global flood related to Noah ever happened. As a matter of fact it's likely impossible.

So there was warming and cooling of the earth’s climate long before the internal combustion engine. Hmmm.

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…the flood related to Noah…

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Aren’t there other inundation legends from around the same time in several middle eastern/central Asian cultures besides the ancient Hebrews? Isn’t the theory that “the flood” was a relatively sudden rise in the level of the Black Sea around which there were numerous ancient cultures? The connection between the Mediterranean and the Black Sea opened up and caused the flood. There have been studies which have found ancient remains on what used to be the former shoreline which are now off the coast and a hundred feet below the surface.

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Aren’t there other inundation legends from around the same time in several middle eastern/central Asian cultures besides the ancient Hebrews? Isn’t the theory that “the flood” was a relatively sudden rise in the level of the Black Sea around which there were numerous ancient cultures? The connection between the Mediterranean and the Black Sea opened up and caused the flood. There have been studies which have found ancient remains on what used to be the former shoreline which are now off the coast and a hundred feet below the surface.

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There are flood stories from many ancient cultures across the world. Were it limited only to the Med I don't think we would see such stories deep into Indonesia nor from tribes in the Americas.

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It wasn't global but more local. Noah didn't have the knowledge of the planet or continents around the world.

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Besides no evidence that Noah was a real person, local flooding would basically disregard the entire point of the biblical flood myth

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That statement / position alone is pretty telling about the motivations of the current political movement (gradualists, uniformitarians...). There is no search for knowledge or truth from these folks. Some folks just want to be "right" to drive policy/funding/agendas...

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The Empire strikes back…

https://theconversation.com/with-netflixs-ancient-apocalypse-graham-hancock-has-declared-war-on-archaeologists-194881

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With Netflix’s Ancient Apocalypse, Graham Hancock has declared war on archaeologists

Published: November 18, 2022 1.40pm EST

Flint Dibble
Marie-Sklowdowska Curie Research Fellow, School of History, Archaeology and Religion, Cardiff University

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His name is Flint (foreshadowing???)

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Netflix’s enormously popular new show, Ancient Apocalypse, is an all out attack on archaeologists. As an archaeologist committed to public engagement who strongly believes in the relevance of studying ancient people, I feel a full-throated defence is necessary.

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He seems to know something about dibbling in full throated behaviors

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To the heart of the matter:

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Steph Halmhofer, a PhD candidate at the University of Alberta who studies the use of pseudo archaeology and erasure of indigenous heritage by far-right groups, suggests that these attacks on archaeologists function to increase his sense of authority with viewers. As Halmhofer explains: It’s about conspiracism and the positioning of Hancock as the victim of a conspiracy. The repeated disparaging remarks about archaeologists and other academics in every episode of Ancient Apocalypse is needed to remind the audience that the alternative past being proposed is true, regardless of the lack of conclusive evidence for it. And the vagueness of who this supposed advanced civilisation was, combined with the credence given to it by being in a Netflix-produced series, is going to make Ancient Apocalypse an easily mouldable source for anyone looking to fill in a fantasied mythical past.

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Hancock and Carlson are obviously right wing loons…

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Dangers of pseudo archaeology

In the last decade we have seen how conspiracy theories and distrust in experts impacts the world around us. And research has shown how pseudo archaeology – especially when couched in anti-intellectual rhetoric – can overlap with more dangerous conspiracy thinking.

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Shut up and OBEY

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Donnelly also believed in an advanced civilisation – Atlantis – that was wiped out by a flood over 10,000 years ago. He claimed that the survivors taught Indigenous people the secrets of farming and monumental architecture. Like many forms of pseudo archaeology, these claims act to reinforce white supremacist ideas, stripping Indigenous people of their rich heritage and instead giving credit to aliens or white people.

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And obviously racists views

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A page from Donnelly’s now debunked 1882 book, Atlantis: The Antediluvian World. via the author This sort of “race science” is outdated and long since debunked, especially given the strong links between Atlantis and Aryans A page from Donnelly’s now debunked 1882 book, Atlantis: The Antediluvian World. via the author This sort of “race science” is outdated and long since debunked, especially given the strong links between Atlantis and Aryans proposed by several Nazi “archaeologists”. These are the reasons why archaeologists will continue to respond to Hancock. It isn’t that we “hate him” as he claims, it is simply that we strongly believe he is wrong. His flawed thinking implies that Indigenous people do not deserve credit for their cultural heritage. .

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Patterned after Nazi thinking…

In short they indirectly label Hancock a right wing, racist Nazi who’s alternative ideas have been “debunked” while not addressing ANY of the content /claims made by Hancock or the series

* An interesting “truth” above is the Nazi infatuation with esoteric science and history. History (and science) as we have been taught is incomplete…