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re: Non leftists that are Pro Palestinian
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:58 pm to 632627
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:58 pm to 632627
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What i can’t understand is when otherwise astute political and social commentators parrot the laughable progressive rhetoric of genocide, ethnic cleansing and apartheid by Israel.
Israel is a Jewish ethno nationalist state, and they treat anyone who's not Jewish badly. It's a pretty ugly place.
The goal is to slowly annex all of the Palestinian land, and the people they can't expel, will end up in little bantustans, with limited movement rights. These places, small towns, will be prisons for them.
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:56 pm to SCLibertarian
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I don't like the Palestinians. I don't like the Israelis. However, our unabashed support for Israel and their influence on our foreign policy has resulted in decades of foreign policy blunders in that area of the world, which has radicalized many Muslims to not just despise the Zionist state of Israel, but the United States of America as well. The Israelis are a 100 lb chain around our necks.
This is exactly correct. Pretty much every problem in the Middle East originated with England carving out arbitrary borders or, in the case of Israel, just turning a blind eye to an entire population being displaced. There is nobody on this board that would be ok with being kicked off of land that your family had owned for sometimes hundreds of years. Nor would anyone on this board be ok with their innocent family members being killed or their entire neighborhood being leveled because they were in proximity to a few shitty people.
It is astounding that so few have the ability to see that almost every single thing that’s gone sideways in the Middle East is due to blowback from our consistently stupid decisions, whether they are CIA sponsored coups or unnecessary wars. We need to GTFO.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 12:06 am to 632627
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What i can’t understand is when otherwise astute political and social commentators parrot the laughable progressive rhetoric of genocide, ethnic cleansing and apartheid by Israel. I don’t understand how anyone with a brain can so easily see through the leftist social justice BS when it comes to everything else, but then co-opt the oppressor vs oppressed viewpoint of the Middle East conflict.
What amazes me is how a lot of people I know who are vehemently antiabortion seem to cheer on isreal dropping 2k lb bombs on children's heads at the American tax payers expense.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 12:26 am to Nevada
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The barbarians are the ones who used terrorism to steal the land of Palestine
If you ignore that fact, then the Palis,look like the bad guys.
Props for the Jews taking their land back. Though it seems retarded to move back into a region where everyone wants you dead. I'm rooting for them, but we should keep our wallets closed.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 12:29 am to AUTiger1978
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It is astounding that so few have the ability to see that almost every single thing that’s gone sideways in the Middle East is due to blowback from our consistently stupid decisions, whether they are CIA sponsored coups or unnecessary wars. We need to GTFO.
Yep. I’m not saying we become completely isolationist and not have allies but all of this bullshite is because we keep meddling with a backwards people, no matter how misguidedly good the intentions are (they usually are not.)
Posted on 5/18/24 at 12:31 am to Alabama Slim
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What amazes me is how a lot of people I know who are vehemently antiabortion seem to cheer on isreal dropping 2k lb bombs on children's heads at the American tax payers expense.
"If we hide behind kids while we shoot at them, they can't return fire!"
- Hamas, or Alabama Slim.
Why do they sound exactly alike?
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 12:31 am
Posted on 5/18/24 at 1:47 am to 3nOut
"They get kicked out every where they go."
Seems like God has a great sense of humor. Israel and Palestinians deserve each other.
Seems like God has a great sense of humor. Israel and Palestinians deserve each other.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 3:29 am to 632627
Why does Israel get to go "total war" against their enemies, yet our boys are fricked by rules of engagement? THATS the double standard I don't agree with. It isn't about Israel. It's the fact that our boys were told to behave and die for the rules or there would be consequences, and apparently there aren't if you are Israel.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 4:59 am to 10thyrsr
frick Russia and frick the Palestinians. Both entered into a country that was not theirs and killed civilians. The problems with these 2 wars are that, had Trump been in office they would have never happened. The way this spineless pussy arse administration handles foreign policy is a complete disaster on every level.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 7:50 am to 10thyrsr
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Why does Israel get to go "total war" against their enemies, yet our boys are fricked by rules of engagement? THATS the double standard I don't agree with.
What rules do we follow that Israel does not?
Posted on 5/18/24 at 7:53 am to Azkiger
“Yeah they had a bunch of kids there but they also had a Hamas guy, so we had no choice but to kill them all including the kids.”
-IDF
-IDF
Posted on 5/18/24 at 8:14 am to Damone
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“Yeah they had a bunch of kids there but they also had a Hamas guy, so we had no choice but to kill them all including the kids.”
-IDF
On a scale of 1-10, how angry were you when you found out the UN drastically lowered the (Hamas) estimated civilian death count?
Posted on 5/18/24 at 8:15 am to Azkiger
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Props for the Jews taking their land back.
God promised it to them, right?
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 8:16 am
Posted on 5/18/24 at 8:23 am to Damone
Lots of antisemitism ITT
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 8:24 am
Posted on 5/18/24 at 8:44 am to 632627
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the laughable progressive rhetoric of genocide, ethnic cleansing and apartheid by Israel.
It is laughable to say that Israel is practicing genocide. Absolutely ridiculous.
Israel does not practice apartheid, since many Arabs have full rights of citizenship in Israel.
Beyond a shadow of a doubt, Israel is practicing ethnic cleansing. Anyone who says otherwise is either blind to what’s happening, a propagandist, or willfully ignorant. What Israel has been doing since 1947 is textbook ethnic cleansing. It would have been impossible to have a Democratic Jewish nation had they not run off the Palestinians.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 9:09 am to Azkiger
Did you lose your IDF blood thirst hard on when they adjusted the death count for children to account for yet to be identified bodies?
Posted on 5/18/24 at 9:10 am to 632627
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I don’t understand how anyone with a brain can so easily see through the leftist social justice BS when it comes to everything else, but then co-opt the oppressor vs oppressed viewpoint of the Middle East conflict.
Reasonable people can disagree with Israel’s present tactics.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 9:17 am to Mo Jeaux
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God promised it to them, right?
I'm an atheist, so you're going to have to change your approach.
"Their land" as in land they held long ago. And they're much better stewards of said land.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 9:19 am to Damone
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Did you lose your IDF blood thirst hard on when they adjusted the death count for children to account for yet to be identified bodies?
I want Hamas to stop hiding behind civilians. But they're not because of idiots like you who behave exactly how they want you too.
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