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re: Can someone explain PGA tour average driver distance in this chart

Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:19 pm to
Posted by MrSpock
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:19 pm to
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Rory’s fairway finder carries 297



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71.16%


And he only hits 71% of fairways. I wonder what would happen to his driving average if his ball was mishit or hit a tree 250 yards down the edge of the fairway. He hit a pull hook in the Masters that went straight left into the trees.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:20 pm to
Do you enjoy making people think you’re a moron?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:22 pm to
Bro, I’m fine being labeled a moron by you if you truly accept 188 is the average tour players 6 iron carry as well
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:24 pm to
They hit 8 and 7 irons into a 155 yard par 3 at Augusta every year. fricking hacks right?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:30 pm to
They also hit 6 irons into 210 yard par 3s

The average should take into account the flights down shots as well as the back foot shots that take away loft

Those the term average, which should lead to stock distance. So no, I think the chart is flawed as I don’t think 188 is stock 6 iron carry on your
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 8:34 pm
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:31 pm to
Where they often land it 190 knowing how hard the greens are and it’s going to release. Or like at Augusta where they play way downhill to a the long ones on the front. Crazy shite I know.
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 8:33 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:34 pm to
If someone started a thread “guess a pros average 6 iron carry” I would bet 1 million shrute bucks you would have made fun of me if I said 188
Posted by MrSpock
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:36 pm to
Bryan Harman's Bag

This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 8:37 pm
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:37 pm to
People have explained it over and over. There’s what they CAN hit with a full swing on the range with no wind and 90° and what they hit on course into hard greens, uphill/side lies and into wind. I wouldn’t be shocked at all.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:38 pm to
Thank you for that

Harman is known as one of the shortest hitters on tour. Thanks for defending my point

His average carry



Unless are you trying to say Harman is the exact avarage tour player in distance

ETA: your trackman data has Harman at 272

So 13 yards off. I’d say that’s fairly accurate how far trackman is off. 298 tour average seems right
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 8:42 pm
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:41 pm to
He is averaging 273 carry this year so far according to in-tournament numbers. Yet you will go with a Titleist ad from 2018 as being more accurate.
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 8:43 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:42 pm to
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He is averaging 273 carry this year so far according to in-tournament numbers
Oh no ell. Not in tournament. Remember trackman says they take range numbers too.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:43 pm to
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He is averaging 273 carry this year so far according to in-tournament numbers. Yet you will go with a Titleist ad from 2018 as being more accurate.
I didn’t post the ad. The guy arguing with me did
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 8:44 pm
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:45 pm to
So you’re NOT using it to support your argument that Trackman is wrong?
Posted by MrSpock
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:46 pm to
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your trackman data has Harman at 272



The link I posted is from ShotLink. On course data only. The source you posted which you can't comprehend uses on-course and range data.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:46 pm to
No, apparently the poster arguing on your side wanted to post it in support of you? Strange I know since it completely contradicts you
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:47 pm to
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Oh no ell. Not in tournament. Remember trackman says they take range numbers too.
Yeah… at tournaments. Range sessions where they are getting a feel for their in-play swings and shots. I doubt they are going 100% on those shots either.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:48 pm to
For Harman to average 272 carry that means he is hitting HUNDREDS of drives in the 250s for the year.

Sorry, bullshite
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:48 pm to
I’m not putting in value in it. You are. You think it’s legit.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:51 pm to
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For Harman to average 272 carry that means he is hitting HUNDREDS of drives in the 250s for the year. Sorry, bullshite
Again, I wish you would look at the data. The PGA stat page shows the number of shots they are using. Harman is at 332 shots. It could be that they’re between 263 and 283. Or 255 and 291. Or some outliers from mishits and downhill and downwind. Insane shite. Unbelievable.
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