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re: Is this saying the vaxx reduces your chance of getting covid by 0.24%?
Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:53 am to onmymedicalgrind
Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:53 am to onmymedicalgrind
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To me it’s a pure numbers game. Depends on what the chance of getting those issues are with regular Covid or from the vaccine itself. Hard to tease that data out though.
Ok but you still need to factor in that it is NOT a definite that people will contract Covid. My point is the to calculate the risk you have to know the chance of actually catching Covid in addition to the chance of getting myocarditis if u actually get Covid.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:53 am to RaginCajunz
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Chances of me winning might be 4x greater, but still extremely rare?
Chances of winning the small prize is 4x. Chances of winning the big prize is 25x.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:54 am to TigerDoc
I already did above.
800+ enrolled in the clinical trials with suspected Covid were not swabbed in the Pfizer trial.
Pfizer knows that there were entire chains of labs where patients were unblinded to the clinicians.
Do you know this and are playing stupid? Or are you just in a comfortable coma?
800+ enrolled in the clinical trials with suspected Covid were not swabbed in the Pfizer trial.
Pfizer knows that there were entire chains of labs where patients were unblinded to the clinicians.
Do you know this and are playing stupid? Or are you just in a comfortable coma?
Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:54 am to TigerDoc
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As pointed out the absolute risk reduction isn't huge, but at a population level it's a massive effect.
Not nearly enough effect to offset the massive overall cost.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:56 am to Vandyrone
If it takes 220 vaccines to prevent a case of Covid (Israel numbers for Pfizer), the cost to prevent one Covid death through vaccination from just the cost of the vaccine and administration is about $3.7M.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:57 am to Vandyrone
That's silly. The cost of vaccines are negligible next to the health care costs of the sick that are prevented.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:59 am to TigerDoc
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next to the health care costs of the sick that are prevented.
True progressive ideology.
Its all about "society." No one gives a frick about the individual. Including you and I.
Progs really don't believe that. They see this as punitive, like everything else in their belief system
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 11:00 am
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:00 am to RogerTheShrubber
You and I live in a society, baw.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:01 am to TigerDoc
frick you.
You are also an individual first, that part has been propagandized right out of your little mind.
Progs are so fricking easy to get behind authoritarianism, and punitive action vs the other side.
Give up your house, your wealth etc for the good of society, hypocrite.
You are also an individual first, that part has been propagandized right out of your little mind.
Progs are so fricking easy to get behind authoritarianism, and punitive action vs the other side.
Give up your house, your wealth etc for the good of society, hypocrite.
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 11:06 am
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:05 am to TigerDoc
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That's silly. The cost of vaccines are negligible next to the health care costs of the sick that are prevented
Overall costs. Costs associated with the massive overreach of unnecessary lockdowns and mandates.
If the true prevalence rate was orders of magnitude higher, perhaps all of this would have been worth it. But it’s not.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:06 am to RogerTheShrubber
Chill a bit, hoss.
This hyper-focus on how supposedly trivial absolute risk reduction is across the myriad risks we face in life obscures the magnitude of risk the individual faces in a bewildering set of life domains.
This hyper-focus on how supposedly trivial absolute risk reduction is across the myriad risks we face in life obscures the magnitude of risk the individual faces in a bewildering set of life domains.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:08 am to cokebottleag
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See my reply a few posts up.
Moderna's data is either dishonest, skewed, or both. It doesn't hold up to the actual independent data. It essentially shows no benefit at all.
Pharma cherry picks their pool for studies. Everyone knows damn well they stuck as many morbidly obese unvaccinated in that study as possible and only chose healthy folks for the vaccine group. That was the kicker this whole time. They only allowed healthy people to participate in the original vax rollout/testing.....and they still had people die.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:08 am to TigerDoc
I see. YOu really don't want to do stuff for the "good of society" if it personally impacts you and your wealth.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:09 am to stout
This vax isn't the cure. But it wasn't intended to be. It was a rush job to (remember this) flatten the curve. Natural immunity was the former goal. But big Pharm got a taste and politicians and bureaucrats and this what we get. It's all about money and power. Not if we get sick and die from the disease or the cure.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:10 am to notsince98
Pfizer recruited from their own employees for the trial.
Friend of mine works for Pfizer and was in the trial. She said they recruited at work.
Friend of mine works for Pfizer and was in the trial. She said they recruited at work.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:12 am to Geauxgurt
So if tomorrow I’m 3x more likely to win the lottery do I have a chance? Short answer no I do not, the odds are still terrible.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:14 am to the808bass
My caner went from like stage .5 (according to onologist) to 2nd stage right after my vaccines. I'm now in treatment and its brutal.
After dealing with this for years, I have absolutely no faith in then medical profession.
After dealing with this for years, I have absolutely no faith in then medical profession.
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 11:16 am
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:15 am to RogerTheShrubber
Man. That sucks.
I’m sorry.
I’m sorry.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:18 am to the808bass
YEah, this stuff is brutal.
I was told by my doc and my oncologist I could use THC for pain. I had to inform THEM yesterday that it exacerbates side effects. They were fricking clueless.
I was told by my doc and my oncologist I could use THC for pain. I had to inform THEM yesterday that it exacerbates side effects. They were fricking clueless.
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