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re: Could homosexuality be natures way of fighting back against climate change?

Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:12 am to
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:12 am to
Somebody had to decorate the Neanderthal caves...
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:18 am to
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It isn’t a gene. It’s a choice.





Nah. No one would choose a dudes b-hole over warm apple pie unless they were mentally ill. It's a mental illness, probably due to a hormone imbalance.
Posted by Steadyhands
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:19 am to
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I tend to think we are seeing a rise in the gay population 1) because it’s not as stigmatized as it used to be and 2) it’s trendy.


If homosexuality is a gene, then natural selection would have eliminated it a long time ago from homosapiens since it involves no reproduction.

It isn’t a gene. It’s a choice.


I don't have the expertise to say that it's genetic or something of that nature, but there's no way it's as simple as a choice.
I don't choose to be heterosexual, it's just how I am. I never once made a conscious choice that a vagina and tits are what I like and seek. If it's a choice, you could override that choice, but why don't you?
Maybe some people have some fricked up mental issues where they can get past it and override there natural status to be gay for a period. For most people, there's no way to just decide to be gay for a day or more.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:24 am to
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Could homosexuality be natures way of fighting back against climate change?


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I had to drive 6 hours today and this is all I could think about.



A few months ago I drove 9.5 hours to Peoria, IL.

Last month I drove about the same amount of time to Orlando.


At no point did the rise of homosexual fetishism enter my mind.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:26 am to
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No, it's caused by birth control hormones in the municipal water supply. Women are urinating their birth control hormones and infecting the rest of us.


While estrogen precursors in our water supplies is an issue, it is resolving itself as the wastewater industry evolves.

20 years ago, most Waste water plants used chlorine (or some other type of halogen) for disinfection. However, since 9-11 the presence of large amounts of chlorine at WWTP has been identified as a homeland security issue. As a result, most major plants have switched to Ultraviolet light as a disinfection method. UV light has the added side benefit of breaking apart estrogen precursors. It's not as big a deal as it used to be.

The information in the article you posted is accurate, but outdated.


Photodegradation of free estrogens driven by UV light: Effects of operation mode and water matrix

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Abstract
Estrogens are endocrine disrupting chemicals that have been frequently detected in diverse water matrices (e.g. surface water, wastewater and drinking water) and caused a series of health risks. This study was aimed at investigating the photochemical degradation of free estrogens estrone (E1), 17ß-estradiol (E2), estriol (E3), and 17a-ethyl estradiol (EE2) upon the monochromatic irradiation (253.7 nm). Concerning the practical installation of photolysis treatment, exposing the impacts of photoreactor operation mode (stationary or up-flow) and the water matrix (ultrapure water or natural surface water) on the photolytic behaviour of estrogens was of high importance. The pseudo-first-order rate constants showed that E1 was the most susceptible to UV radiation among chosen estrogens due to its high molar absorption coefficient of 402.4 M-1 cm-1 and quantum yield of 0.065 mol E-1 at ? = 253.7 nm. Moreover, the up-flow mode and the surface water matrix collected from a lake in Regent's Park (London) were found to favour the photodegradation of estrogens due to the introduction of more dissolved oxygens and promotion of reactive oxygen species (ROS) formation. These findings may shed light on the photochemical behaviour of estrogens in some specific scenarios.
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Posted by chryso
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:39 am to
The earths climate has always changed. Remember the ice ages?
Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:40 am to
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Having a younger gay brother can be super helpful at protecting your young


Not if he's a pedo like a lot of gays are
Posted by Geauxgurt
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:03 am to
While it may not be a conscious choice, there is no evidence whatsoever to back that it is biologically linked. People simply try to force connections to help them understand the phenomena, but there is nothing there.

In reality, it likely has a lot more to do with mental than biological factors, and we are seeing a case study of it right before our eyes with the Transgender phenomena.

Someone that is dealing with a mental or emotional issue they cannot understand simply trying to find a reason for it will grasp onto anything to feel whole. For some, it means they are gay. For others, “I’ve always felt I was different and now I know why!” transgender.

That does not mean that things like hormone imbalance don’t affect these things at all, but it is not the cause. There is no data to back that up.

Saying something has happened in other cultures throughout history also doesn’t in any way support it being biological. If anything, it more strongly supports it being psychological coping. Hell, perhaps in the ancient Greek and Roman cultures, it was a result of boredom or simply seeing women as lesser and only there for procreation.

In any event, someone being “extremely gay” to a stereotype doesn’t in any way support it being biologically driven.
Posted by VetteGuy
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:03 am to
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Blame parents for raising a bunch of man-children who aren't worth marrying.


I've gotta be honest, I have had that same thought. A lot of candy-arse manbun low-T guys out there, no woman wants to be a mommy to man in his 30s or 40s.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:09 am to
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More are becoming L than the others. Blame parents for raising a bunch of man-children who aren't worth marrying.

that would be fine,.. if the average woman wasn't a 170 lb disaster of a human
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:13 am to
To believe climate change is a problem you have to be one of 5 things

Mentally ill
Lying
Joking
Uninformed
Or just plain stupid.

Which are you? I can help with the uninformed option
Posted by Crimson1st
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:47 am to
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I get that if it’s not a choice you have to deal with the concept that homosexuals are just born that way. But I don’t think we have any conscious control over who we’re sexually attracted to or can change that willingly. It has to be biological.


My point was that even if we cede that some have an altered attraction to the same sex we also know that for a goodly portion of homosexuals come as making a choice to engage in the behavior due to environment/choices BUT ultimately even those who might have an attraction to others of the same sex CHOOSE to a) have sex and b) their partner(s). People are NOT born having sex, period. We CHOOSE who our partners are(and I’m not counting sexual assaults and such of course).

Now I know some of those reading this are going to let what I am saying fly clearly over their head and tap on about being born a certain way, yada. Again I’m speaking to the fact that we humans CHOOSE our sexual partners at some point in the process. Therefore if one engages in homosexual sex, they are choosing to have sex with someone of the same gender at some point, it boils down to a choice.

What folks don’t get to choose are things like your race, your birthed eye color, your birthed gender, immutable things like that. You come out of the birth canal from jump with traits like that…sexual behaviors take place later on in life and do boil down to a choice at the end of the day. That’s simple and factual.

Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:08 am to
I don't think it's due to climate change, but I think it is nature's way of killing off a useless society. The USA has made its contribution to the advancement of mankind. Now that life is no longer a struggle, we cannot improve our species, and we must make room for those who can. That's why so many of you are now blowing dudes.
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