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re: Just diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes

Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:19 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31354 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:19 am to
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Eating fat does not make one fat. Eating fat with carbs causes an insulin response that stores the fat you just ate. Eat as much fat as you’d like, but avoid the carbs. It will not make you fat, will make you feel satiated, and may even make you smarter (brain food).



in correct in that...eating more calories than you burn, makes you fat

of the 3 macro nutrients, dietary fat is by far the easiest to store as body fat. that is a fact that we know from the studies. we also know, this only happens when there is an excess of calories.

high fat works because most people feel satiated as you stated, not because of insulin response.

you cant eat as much as you like and just avoid carbs and lose body fat....we know this for 100% fact. if you overeat on calories, you will not lose weight. exception is protein and only partial exception due to thermic effect of food and issues with the body turning excess protein into body fat.
Posted by StreamsOfWhiskey
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jun 2013
582 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 7:12 pm to
I don’t disagree with anything you wrote, but I believe most people cannot eat pure protein and fat to a level where they store it. It’s too filling. That said, if someone can do it, they’ll store it as fat. Take in more calories than what you burn, you get fat.
Posted by FlyinTiger93
Member since May 2010
3590 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 7:46 am to
I beat it. Hit 6.5, and the doctor gave me the same options. I dropped from 227 to 198 in 6 months strictly by changing my diet. Lose most breads, and pasta. I ate mostly meat and veggies, but still had an occasional cookie, or chocolate. No soft drinks, and 2 beers after cutting the grass. Did not even start exercising, as life is and will be busy. Screw your family's diet. It is your life you need to protect. Let them eat what they want, and you prepare what you need for yourself. This is not 1st grade and your mommy is packing your lunch. This is an almost 50 year old man with a lifetime of poor food choices. Fix it, and you will be fine, without Ozempic.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31354 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:47 am to
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I don’t disagree with anything you wrote, but I believe most people cannot eat pure protein and fat to a level where they store it. It’s too filling. That said, if someone can do it, they’ll store it as fat. Take in more calories than what yo


for many yes. in general the long term studies show that keto is the only diet where people tend to lower caloric intake over time and not reduce activity levels. that is why its such a good strategy for many.
Posted by AFtigerFan
Ohio
Member since Feb 2008
3257 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:14 pm to
2 weeks in with just better eating habits and exercise and I’m down 10 pounds. I feel great, and I’m almost down to 200 lbs (202.4 this morning). I still have around 5 months before labs get taken again, but I’m looking forward to seeing how that goes.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33509 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:41 pm to
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2 weeks in with just better eating habits and exercise and I’m down 10 pounds. I feel great, and I’m almost down to 200 lbs (202.4 this morning). I still have around 5 months before labs get taken again, but I’m looking forward to seeing how that goes.
Great to hear, man. The good news you CAN reverse out of it. The ADA tends to put out the message that you have to just "manage" it with drugs and the absurd diets they recommend which promote it if anything.
Posted by DrDenim
By the airport
Member since Sep 2022
488 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:48 pm to
I'm just now at my 5 year anniversary of being diagnosed TD2. I've been through so many different phases of this, lets' see, there was the periods of handling it okay, then handling it great, followed by getting lax and fricking around and losing ground, then making great progress again over a short period of time, losing weight, getting off all injected insulins, resuming physical activity in a serious and consistent manner, and finally retreating back from that progress to where I think I'm back to square one again. It's been a trip, and it has not been pleasant. And at the end of the day, although I'm still relatively healthy, (Just this "well controlled" TD2, no additional health problems, I've just made a frustratingly tiny bit of progress in a very long period of time), it's demoralizing to face where I actually am today, 5 years after being diagnosed I really feel like it's Do Or Die time.

I'm now entering the period where I have to start accepting that I'm not exactly "newly diagnosed" anymore, and if I don't start getting my shite together it'll be impossible to send it into remission in the future. For years I've been opposed to adopting any kind of "diet" other than a balanced diet, but I can't even maintain that. I think I'm too carb sensitive and if I eat some bread/pasta/pizza/ultra-processed sugar laden garbage, it slowly turns into more and more until I'm just eating carbs/sugar all the time and not much else. So I'm saying "frick it"....officially and trying a low carb path now. Hope it works. Keep up your progress.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54163 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 10:54 am to
Are you against mounjaro or ozempic? It appears from my limited perspective one of these drugs would really benefit you.
Posted by ErikGordan
Member since Oct 2016
864 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 2:06 pm to
The key is to gain muscle and adding a diet rich in green veggies, beans, berries, fiber. eggs, nuts and lean protein.
Learn to read and understand nutrition labels. For example avoid peanut butter with palm oil but purchase pb with the only ingredient being peanuts.
Check out YouTube on the science of heating and cooling foods regarding glycemic level. For example if you refrigerate rice after cooking, the rice's glycemic level changes.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33509 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:03 pm to
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The key is to gain muscle and adding a diet rich in green veggies, beans, berries, fiber. eggs, nuts and lean protein.
Nah. The key is to limit calories, and even then, mostly only protein and fat, with a tilt to protein. Everything else is just window dressing if he already has T2D.
Posted by DrDenim
By the airport
Member since Sep 2022
488 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:42 pm to
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Are you against mounjaro or ozempic? It appears from my limited perspective one of these drugs would really benefit you.


You aren't wrong, BUT I'm very stubborn about doing things the way I want to do them. This won't be the first time I've picked the hardest way to go about doing something, and I'll probably regret it and change my mind when it's too late. I'm not against other people using GLP1's if that's their choice, but I don't want to. I've got to fix this internally.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9117 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 2:29 am to
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So I'm saying "frick it"....officially and trying a low carb path now. Hope it works. Keep up your progress.


Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2130 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 7:20 am to
Do you take daily blood glucose readings? Daily accountability is a good way to stay on track. It also helps to learn which foods trigger a response so you can avoid.
Posted by DrDenim
By the airport
Member since Sep 2022
488 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 8:51 pm to
Currently I only do 2 readings a week. I used to do 4 a day when I took insulins, but it's not needed anymore.
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